Bill - "class of '87' ??  I never woulda guessed it.  I always figured you 
were an old fart like me - class of '67, who just a few years before the 
end of the .60's wore super-tapered jeans like the millennials a few 
decades or so ago from now wore..


On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 10:53:12 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> "the peg and fold - remember that?! "
>
> I lived that!  I was class of '87.  We all did the peg and fold and had 
> our bangs up high with hairspray like flock of seagulls.  
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 8:37:28 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Bill, I absolutely employed the 90s tactic of pegging those pants! And 
>> they managed to be bunched up under that Riv band anyway. I did NOT, 
>> however, do the peg and fold - remember that?! 
>>
>> The Aardvark band looks promising, albeit ugly and expensive. I’m 
>> wondering if a stack of regular bands would accomplish the same. We’ll find 
>> out when my Amazon order arrives.
>> L
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Leah
>>
>>
>> Regarding keeping your pants grease free:  Rivendell sells the absolute 
>> best ankle strap for conspicuity. 
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/ankle-reflector-rar?_pos=1&_psq=ankle&_ss=e&_v=1.0
>>
>> That legband is lousy for keeping your pants out of the chain.  The far 
>> better ankle band for keeping your pants out of the chain is the Aardvark 
>> Ankle Biters:  https://www.ebay.com/itm/303745533555 Every bike should 
>> have one of these wrapped around the handlebar for easy use.  It also 
>> doubles very well as a parking brake.  
>>
>> Remember how we used to "peg" our jeans or trousers?  That's how you use 
>> an ankle strap.  Take a fold of fabric at your shin, fold it AWAY from the 
>> centerline of the bike and then strap that down with the ankle strap. 
>>  Don't just bunch up your pant leg and let it flare out like a tutu on the 
>> bottom.  That's still going to get into the chain.  Let me know if that's 
>> not clear, and I'll do a photo essay for you.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 7:13:39 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where 
>>> are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the 
>>> bike?
>>>
>>> The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my 
>>> era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, 
>>> and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you 
>>> could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. 
>>> I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a 
>>> charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. 
>>>
>>> But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the 
>>> era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall 
>>> riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried 
>>> about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. 
>>>
>>> Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. 
>>> I really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over 
>>> getting them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my 
>>> Saddlesack for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those 
>>> straps work better in theory than in real life because by the time I got 
>>> home, well…here’s a photo. 
>>>
>>> I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to 
>>> have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, 
>>> since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. 
>>> My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going 
>>> to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”
>>>
>>> My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will 
>>> mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move 
>>> the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me 
>>> that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the 
>>> damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and 
>>> sneakers year-round.
>>>
>>> And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? 
>>> Do you wear what you want? Do you even care? 
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While 
>>> I’m not too distressed about my army green pants getting greasy, I might 
>>> feel differently if the pants were a lighter color. 
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
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