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On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 2:41:10 PM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:

> My hand does move slightly forward to shift one direction, and slightly 
> back to shift the other.  But both positions are comfortable and natural. 
> Getti g leverage is easy both ways without having to let go of the bar 
> while shifting, which is one of the problems I have the single thumb lever, 
> sepending on where it is in the throw.    
>
> In fact, my default grip when actuall riding along is forward, at the 
> curve of the bar.  I agree that the gpal is to maintain all the potential 
> grip positions, which is why I like the fact that they're on the inside of 
> the bar)
>
> The grip flange is soft enough that it folds under my palm and doesn't 
> bother me.  In reality, those grips were just another item from my parts 
> bins though.  I thought I'd use them until I got everything dialed in, and 
> eventually create permanent grips with tape and padding.  This is working 
> so well, that I think placement is already good, and I like the grips 
> enough (they're extra long to take advantage of the whole straight section) 
> ) that I may end up just putting some cloth tape on the curve and calling 
> it good.
>
>
> On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 1:59:04 PM UTC-6 DavidP wrote:
>
> Great that you not only found a setup that works well for you, but that 
> uses those neat shifters. A pair of the Diacompe wing shifters just went 
> for a steal over on the iBob group.
>
> Do you shift your hand forward to use the forward "wing" of the shifter? 
> Does the grip flange interfere?
>
> My Bosco bar bike uses a cheap Sunrace friction thumbie positioned on the 
> ramp of the bars so it doesn't interfere with a range of hand positions but 
> is also accessible from my primary cruising grip, which is a bit forward on 
> the bar.
>
> -Dave
>
> On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 12:35:01 PM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote:
>
> Short story, I stumbled on the realization that butterfly shifters work 
> very well on Bosco bars. I think dia compe has re-released something 
> similar, and may be worth considering if, like me, you love bosco bars but 
> never found the ideal shifter setup
>
> I've tried thumb shifters in a variety of configurations over the years - 
> inside, outside, reversed L-R and otherwise, with and without offset 
> mounts, located on the straight grip section, the forward sloped area, and 
> next to the stem clamp.   I was never satisfied though, and this feels the 
> most natural yet.  
>
> Longer story is that I had these bars on a Clem that I loved but imagined 
> could be improved;  regreatably gave that frame away thinking I could just 
> move all my parts to a Susie;  discovered that those were very different 
> bikes and that the bosco bars didn't work as well; replaced those bars with 
> tosco bars that are much better, but left the rest of the cockpit in 
> place.  Then, my beloved Clem  frame was returned to me!!  I had the bosco 
> bars, but needed new brakes and shifters;  didn't have the budget to buy 
> new;  rummaged through my parts bins and found these old, lightly-used 
> suntour butterfly shifters and 4-finger shimano levers, and LOVE them.
>
> Ironically, the reason I have these is that I could never get them to feel 
> right on drop bars as they were intended.  It always seemed like the levers 
> were angled backward and would have worked better on the opposite sides.  
> It felt the same here!  Since it had been working so well with left and 
> right levers reversed on the clem, and then susie, i just did the same 
> thing here and use them in friction mode.
>
>

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