Thanks, I'll see how the Terra Speeds compare. I agree about price, it's 
just too much for something expendable.

I'm not looking for mud tires at all, just thought I'd throw my overall 
take on the Herse tires. I'm skeptical that the Terra Speed.onobs do much 
of anything, but we'll see.

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 9:16:16 AM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've been running the Terraspeed 40mm (measuring 38mm on my A23 rims). I 
> have no stomach for the prices Rene Herse charges for their tires, but I 
> don't think the Terra Speed are going to satisfy you if you're riding in 
> mud. My experience with the Terraspeed is that in mud, you're going to spin 
> the tires for about half a pedal stroke before the tire sinks enough into 
> the mud to bite. It's a bit disconcerting, but here in California mud 
> doesn't happen often and I want the lightest possible tire because every 
> ride here starts with a 2000' climb.
>
> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 5:37:14 AM UTC-7 Adam wrote:
>
>>  My tires are around 40-41mm on Dyads (19mm, I think).
>>
>> Great feel, fast, horrible in mud, great in everything else, maybe a 
>> little too fragile for what they enable me to ride.
>>
>> I'm going to try the Terra Speed see how it goes. The price on those is 
>> very good at the moment, and I'd feel OK with those under 52mm fenders, I 
>> think.
>> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:41:08 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Eliot,
>>>
>>> 'I’m just starting my own frustrating but blissful journey with RH SP.'
>>>
>>> Just wondering what has been frustrating about your experience with the 
>>> Snoqualmies?
>>>
>>> Cheers, John
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’m curious to hear what others say. Nothing will be AS plush but you 
>>>> should be able to find a trade off for slightly more grip in exchange for 
>>>> slightly worse road feel.
>>>>
>>>> I always liked the Vittoria Terreno Dry in 650b but I don’t know how 
>>>> they translate to 700c.
>>>>
>>>> I’m just starting my own frustrating but blissful journey with RH SP.
>>>>
>>>> Other tires I considered were the Specialized Pathfinder Pro and 
>>>> Schwalbe G-One RS. 
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 6:42 PM Adam <adam....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Too many holes in the tread of my snoqualmie pass ELs, time to move 
>>>>> them on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Asking the timeless question: which tires should I buy for the 
>>>>> Hillborne?
>>>>>
>>>>> I see endless variations of "gravel" tires in this size range. Anyone 
>>>>> find anything that compares well to the Rene Herse stuff? I found gravel 
>>>>> kings noticeably slower and less plush. I'm thinking about trying the 
>>>>> Terra 
>>>>> Speeds that are on sale a few places.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other ideas? I'm inclined towards slightly knobby, but have been doing 
>>>>> OK with the file tread.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
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