Ted, I've got to say that Ana Purple color is one of the nicest colors I've 
seen on a Riv. Looks great! I'll offer my feedback as a former Appa owner. 
I've tried Albatross, Billie's and Jones Loop bars. Of those three the 
Billie's were my favorite. The Albatross didn't over enough hand positions. 
The Jones bars are very practical and make for great touring bars but I 
never could warm up to the aesthetics of the Jones. The Billie's are 
classic Riv and they just go perfectly IMHO. 

I sold my Appa in the fall of last year and have had quite a few regrets 
about doing so. Oh well, maybe I'll try an Atlantis next time! 

Tim 

On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 11:14:37 AM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:

> My Hunqa has a Discord Fingerling Stem with 70mm reach and a Jones Loop 
> Bar (710) - it's a great setup
> Max
>
> On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 9:58:21 AM UTC-4 Dave Grossman wrote:
>
>> I once heard an interview with Jeff Jones on how to set up his H-Bar and 
>> he mentioned using a stem short enough so that you can fully utilize his 
>> bars.  If the stem is too long, the curve at the front won't be used for 
>> more "aero" riding and if it is too short the grips won't be comfy either.
>>
>> I've tried to apply this to my Hunq and I ended up running a 120/Albas on 
>> it!  I suggest trying a few setups on the Joe until you feel like you can 
>> utilize it in full.
>>
>> On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 2:40:40 AM UTC-5 Eric Grim wrote:
>>
>>> Focusing on the question, what kinds of bars do people like on their 
>>> Appaloosas, I had Nitto *North Road* bars on mine for a while (now, my 
>>> Grant Petersen-designed Soma *San Marcos* is wearing them).  I don't 
>>> think Nitto is making those bars anymore, but there are lots that are 
>>> pretty similar, including the Choco and Albastache.  I like them a lot.
>>>
>>> Presently my Appaloosa has Nitto VS touring/butterfly bars.  I haven't 
>>> ridden with them much yet.
>>>
>>> I took some pics but couldn't figure out how to paste them into this 
>>> reply.
>>>
>>> Eric Grim
>>> Spokane (just north of the Palouse, where the Appaloosa horse came from.)
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 7:08:44 AM UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Got my Appa on Monday, built it yesterday and commuted to work on it 
>>>> today. First impressions are that it's exactly what I had hoped for. The 
>>>> ride is amazing and it feels so plush while still remaining responsive; 
>>>> nimble yet stable. But I think it could still be better and I want to 
>>>> channel the wisdom of the group.
>>>>
>>>> Currently, I have the bike built with drop bars (50cm V/O Randonneur). 
>>>> However, I know this frame, like many of the Riv frames, is really built 
>>>> with swept back bars in mind. Knowing this, I went with a stem that's 
>>>> about 
>>>> half my "typical" length. Unfortunately, it still feels like quite a reach 
>>>> to get on the hoods, not impossible, but not "normal". So, this is where 
>>>> my 
>>>> question starts:
>>>>
>>>> Do I continue to try shortening the stem, say to maybe 30-40mm, or do I 
>>>> give in to my swept bar destiny and spring for some new bars? And if I go 
>>>> with sweeps, which bars do people like on the Appa? I have 65mm Tosco bars 
>>>> on my Gus and it's wonderful on that bike, but being that I don't want to 
>>>> be quite so upright (and there's not quite as much room) on the Appa. I 
>>>> was 
>>>> thinking of going with either Billie or Albatross bars. The two are so 
>>>> similar, however, that I'm having a hard time deciding between the two. 
>>>> I'm 
>>>> probably splitting hairs, as usual, but I'm genuinely curious to see what 
>>>> y'all think.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -- 
>>>> Ted Wood < ted.l...@gmail.com >
>>>>
>>>

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