Those bars look shallow from the side but don't look so shallow front the 
side/front. Now I'm curious --- doesn't the flare in those drops make it 
harder to use the hoods as a riding position? 

On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 6:48:49 PM UTC-7 DavidP wrote:

> Yep, I have a drop-bar MTB that I usually run with 29x2.25 tires. In the 
> winter it gets a 2.8 front and 2.4 rear and with that setup it's more of a 
> basher / rock crawler and feels much slower.
>
> [image: Jones-2022-10-18.jpg]
>
> This is a Jones which is designed for use with a somewhat swept back bar, 
> but this older model has a shorter top tube that works with a drop bar. 
> I've found the handling with a drop bar to be amazing, and the bike does 
> pretty well on pavement while being more capable off-road than something 
> like my Soma Wolverine with 650x48s or my Platypus with 29x2" tires (but 
> it's no where near as nice looking as the Platy).
>
> As far as underbiking goes, I like to see what I can get away with on most 
> of my bikes and to appropriate and paraphrase, "if you're skilled and have 
> good judgement and [relatively fat-ish tires], you can ride [any bike] 
> where you shouldn't". Sometimes I end up on a trail that requires a bunch 
> of hike-a-bike.
>
> [image: wolverine-trails.jpg]
>
> -Dave
> On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 8:55:59 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> " ...maybe some day the wheel will turn and drop bars off road will come 
>> back into fashion 
>>
>> Piaw, it's already happening. See: Tumbleweed, Salsa, Kona, Bearclaw, and 
>> the list goes on. 
>> I personally prefer a sweptback bar for the rough stuff so I can shift my 
>> weight rearward. taking some of the load off the front wheel while 
>> maintaining comfortable control of the brake levers - but I 'm an old fart. 
>> Drop bar MTBs/ATBs are definitely a thing though - I've been seeing more 
>> and more of them on my local dirt rides. It's all good!
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 8:33:40 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> This Saturday I took my Roadini and went up Spring Ridge Road (Windy 
>>> Hill OSP) and descended Crazy Pete's (Coal Creak OSP). 
>>> https://www.strava.com/activities/9109425331
>>>
>>> I had one of those amazing days where I was "on". I set PRs down Crazy 
>>> Pete's (the last time I did it I was on a MTB with front suspension). The 
>>> Roadini's 6-8 pounds lighter than my MTB, and without suspension, I felt 
>>> like I could place my bike on precisely whatever lines I wanted, so much so 
>>> that when I went at full speed, my friend on her dual suspension CF MTB (a 
>>> Juliana Furtado) couldn't keep up downhill.
>>>
>>> I think the drop bars on my Roadini are partly responsible --- the low 
>>> position feels natural, and the modulation on the Tektro 559s are nothing 
>>> short of amazing. I remembered that one of Bridgestone's mountain bikes 
>>> back in the 1980s came with drop bars. I dug around and found this article 
>>> about "dirt drop" bars: 
>>> https://g-tedproductions.blogspot.com/2008/10/drop-bar-for-mountain-biking-part-i.html
>>>
>>> I guess since cycling is so driven by fashion, maybe some day the wheel 
>>> will turn and drop bars off road will come back into fashion. My experience 
>>> made me wonder if you designed the frame so that those brake pads are at 
>>> the bottom of the slots on the Tektro 559s, how big a tire can you fit? I 
>>> found this video on youtube where someone managed to squeeze a 2" tire on 
>>> those: https://youtu.be/vGnNkQJz-Fk?t=389
>>>
>>> Those of you with AHH or Roadinis, have you tried taking your bikes down 
>>> rocky/rooty single track? Taking a MTB down those feels like driving a 
>>> jeep, but riding the Roadini down one feels like you're a sushi chef 
>>> carving fish with precision --- a completely different feeling.
>>>
>>> Piaw
>>>
>>

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