I can look at the route and make one on Ride W/Gps if you want.  Then you 
could join our CLub acct and you could use voice navigation.  Let me know 
if I can help.

On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 12:20:40 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I should add, lest anyone get an inflated idea of my cycling ability, that 
> my plan would be to ride South and take the train back. Distance 1-way is 
> 40 to 45 miles. Friend in question did 6K (or was it 8K? He did 8 one 
> recent year) miles last year and he's 64.
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 10:05 AM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I was just discussing a possible ride south of Albuquerque to Jaral with 
>> a friend and wondering about the best way to map it for minimum traffic; 
>> also to find out about any hills -- tho' I expect that, N/S, there won't be 
>> many.
>>
>> I'd like to join but I'll have to use my Mac Mini work computer as my 
>> Macbook Air is at the Apple Store waiting for a battery to come in. That 
>> means that I can see you (pl) but you (pl) can't see me. Given this, do you 
>> mind if I join?
>>
>> And is the meeting at 6 pm Pacific or in some other time zone? (I'm in 
>> Mountain.)
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Patrick Moore, whose only bike with more than 3 speeds has 60 mm tires, 
>> in ABQ, NM -- may be I will buy some RH Snoqualmie Passes ...
>>
>> On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 9:51 AM Pam Bikes <pamlike...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I use Ride With GPS, then write the route down on an index card w/ a 
>>> fountain pen (Broad nib[image: routecard.jpg] for better visibility).  
>>> Put in a baggie if any rain is forecasted.  At night I have a small light 
>>> on the stem to use as a map light.
>>>
>>> I'll be doing a route planning workshop if anyone wants to join in on 
>>> Zoom.  May 18 at 6.  Let me know if anyone wants the link.  
>>>
>>> I plan routes just as you're describing everyday.  I probably have about 
>>> 500 routes in Charlotte and a few where I've traveled.  
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 2:41:11 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Jeffrey; noted.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 7:13 PM Jeffrey Arita <jeffre...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Patrick,
>>>>>
>>>>> One caveat: if you want the verbal (voice) turn-by-turn feature that 
>>>>> ridewithgps offers (for routes), then you will need to pay for either a 
>>>>> Basic or Premium subscription.  The free version does not offer this 
>>>>> specific feature:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://support.ridewithgps.com/hc/en-us/articles/4419572706971-Turn-by-Turn-Navigation
>>>>>
>>>>> Ask me how I know ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> We finally upgraded to the Premium subscription, primarily because 
>>>>> that level enables one to 'archive' routes (we have many, many routes and 
>>>>> they grow as time moves forward).  Archiving routes enables one to 
>>>>> 'activate' only those routes one wants to (perhaps) synchronize to their 
>>>>> desired gps standalone device (without having to scroll through dozens 
>>>>> and 
>>>>> dozens of irrelevent routes).  
>>>>>
>>>>> Just wanted to offer a different perspective.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>> Claremont, CA
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 4:52:39 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks all; the unanimous and very quick agreement on 
>>>>>> Ridewithgps speaks well of it and I'lll check it out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 11:56 AM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks to the car-centric development of this our Southwestern city 
>>>>>>> we often have destinations only a few miles away that you can't ride to 
>>>>>>> on 
>>>>>>> direct, paved routes. OTOH, thanks to our extensive dirt trails, there 
>>>>>>> are 
>>>>>>> often off-road workarounds that, if they add 50% or more to the total 
>>>>>>> distance are pleasant to ride -- and after all, one rides for pleasure; 
>>>>>>> or 
>>>>>>> I hope one does.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have to take a computer in to a shop tomorrow. By 6-lane boulevard 
>>>>>>> and resulting horrible intersections it's 3.3 miles, but per Google 
>>>>>>> maps 
>>>>>>> there is apparently a combined residential street-cum-dirt trail route 
>>>>>>> that 
>>>>>>> can get me there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The trouble is that it's complicated enough that I have a hard time 
>>>>>>> following it on my 42" professional screen. Also, I am rather 
>>>>>>> "spatially 
>>>>>>> dyslexic:" I don't easily comprehend spatial directions, relations, and 
>>>>>>> distances -- generally I painstakingly work out complicated routes on a 
>>>>>>> verbal instruction sheet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I cannot use Google Maps or on a 2" iPhone screen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But: is there some miracle phone app that will, say, let you pick 
>>>>>>> out such a route on a big screen and transfer it to a phone where the 
>>>>>>> app 
>>>>>>> will walk you through the turns and distances?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Otherwise, I'll stick to writing out route marker lists.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aside: When I drive with my daughter, she gauged routes using Siri 
>>>>>>> to operate a direction app that would nag you to turn in "100 yards" or 
>>>>>>> what have you. But (1) I will *not* talk to a ddogamned machine, 
>>>>>>> and (2) the routes in question involve paths that I expect are not 
>>>>>>> inside 
>>>>>>> Google or Apple systems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patrick Moore, who from time to time revisits Robin Williams very 
>>>>>>> funny Siri putdown on Ellen DeGeneres.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Patrick Moore
>>>>>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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