A few thoughts from the OP: My guess is that it will be closer to Susie than Gus. This might just be my skewed perception, but I've gotten the feeling that of the two models, the Susie was the one that was more desirable, especially to those more steeped in the classic tradition of Riv bikes. Probably due mostly to the classic look of a 1" threaded steerer and the notion that it might be a less stiff, more forgiving ride than the Gus. Maybe it will have stouter tubing? As for the lugs, this is why I'm not so sure it will have a swoopy top tube... unless I'm mistaken, Rivendell has never joined a curvy tube and a straight tube with a lug. They seem to be always TIG welded or fillet brazed in those cases. So, maybe it will have more lugs on other parts of the frame, but if it has a swoopy top tube, I doubt there will be any lugs on it. Also, I can't see Riv spec'ing any special lugs for a threadless headtube, so I say it'll be 1" threaded.
I won't even address the "girls bike" comments. Oddly enough, for as long as I have admired and lusted after the classic look of Rivendell's traditional lugged diamond frames, it was the first photo I saw of Grant's mustard-y Clem L (years ago now) that really made me want to make my first Rivendell purchase. Something about the look of that bike really sparked something in me. When the Hillibikes were introduced, I was heavily into bikepacking and the Gus seemed like it was the one Rivendell that would be perfect for me and the type of riding I enjoy most. It took a while, but I finally scored one just in time for them to be discontinued. I love the way it rides. I love the way it handles loaded. I love that it still seems to be the most "black sheep" of all the Rivendells ever produced. It's like a rebel within an already rebellious niche of bikes made by a company that has always bucked trends. It's such a cool, weird-ass bike and I love it. -Brian On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 8:00:45 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote: > So "Susie Lugged" in June" has become "Susie/Wolbis/Gus combo Hillibike. > Lugged." in October. OK, not likely to impact me, I have my Gus. But I do > love lugged frames..... > > As far as the Appaloosa vs. Hunqapillar comparison - the Hunqapillar has > the best head badge by far - love those Trilobites, kinda wish my Bombadil > had a Hunqapillar head badge. > > Laing > > On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 7:14:06 AM UTC-4 Bones wrote: > >> I am curious. It was mentioned in an email back in January, right before >> the last Susie/Gus shipment: >> >> Tomorrow is the last chance to get a fillet brazed Gus or Susie. They're >> discontinued, not because we don't love 'em but because the fillet brazing >> is super time consuming for our frame manufacturer and because a lot of >> people find the two iterations of what's almost the same bike confusing. >> Hillibikes will return, but not in these forms. >> >> I also took this screenshot around the same time. Maybe they were just >> using the name Susie as a placeholder. Maybe not. Of course someone could >> just give our friends a call to find out... >> >> [image: IMG_0020.PNG] >> Bones >> >> On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 9:03:24 PM UTC-4 Michael Baquerizo wrote: >> >>> *If they didn't make major changes to the Hunqapillar, a newer version >>> would just be an Appaloosa.* >>> >>> this is what i tell myself all the time. always wanted a hunq, but ended >>> up with an appa. i used to hate the long chain stays and i still *prefer >>> *the hunq, but I i really like my appaloosa. >>> >>> >>> On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 8:39:49 PM UTC-4 Chris L wrote: >>> >>>> RBW have stated at least once that the Hunqapillar will come back, but >>>> in a different form. I hope that's what is coming in October. >>>> >>>> If they didn't make major changes to the Hunqapillar, a newer version >>>> would just be an Appaloosa. Other than longer chainstays and probably >>>> heavier tubes, the Appaloosa is very, very similar to the old Hunqapillar, >>>> at least in the mid-sizes (ie, 54 Hunq, 55 Appaloosa). I would love to >>>> ride my 54 Hunqapillar and the closest to the same size Appaloosa, back to >>>> back, to see how much difference the longer chainstays make. >>>> >>>> On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 7:27:36 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Two biggest differences (in my opinion) between a Clem L and either a >>>>> Gus or Susie; the latter are not step through frames & they both have a >>>>> significantly higher bottom bracket than the Clem. I think the Clem is >>>>> accurately described as a “Hillibike”. Gus & Susie are legit mountain >>>>> bikes. Love them both! >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On May 15, 2023, at 8:10 PM, ssimarsawhney <ssimar....@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> My guess would have been 1in threaded with thicker tubing, which >>>>> feels like a clem. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Can someone speak a bit more about the differences between the two? >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 4:44:08 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I don't think anyone said Susie and Clem are alike, we said Clem L >>>>>> covers the same territory. Gus is more specifically its own thing, >>>>>> there's >>>>>> no other Riv in the category. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 3:59:28 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Owning both a Susie and a Clem, I do agree with Garth that they are >>>>>>> almost nothing alike. On the other hand, I guess I don't see as much >>>>>>> distinction between the Susie and the Gus as some do, and think of them >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> interchangeable. Just slightly clunkier and stiffer tubing on one. >>>>>>> Assuming it will still have the not-quite-step-through swoopy top tube >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> that lugs could be shared with Charlie, it would be hard to Imagine >>>>>>> Rivendell having a new set made for 1 1/8" threadless headtubes and >>>>>>> larger >>>>>>> diameter downtubes, but who knows. It sounds like the scare of losing >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> lug supplier has receded for now, too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 4:24:58 PM UTC-6 Andrew Letton wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The one feature that I see the Gus/Susie just begging for is a set >>>>>>>> of triple bottle bosses on the *rear* side of the seat tube. With >>>>>>>> those long chainstays, it seems the perfect place for another big (1 - >>>>>>>> 2 >>>>>>>> liter) waterbottle for those of us in hot, dry locations. >>>>>>>> cheers, >>>>>>>> Andrew in Sydney >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 02:35:56 AM GMT+10, Brian Turner < >>>>>>>> brok...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does anyone know anything specific about this new Hillibike >>>>>>>> iteration scheduled for October? Care to make any speculations or >>>>>>>> predictions? According to the latest Riv IG post, it only says >>>>>>>> "lugged, >>>>>>>> green and dark gold". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My main questions are: >>>>>>>> Will it have a straight top tube like the Platy / Roscoe Bubbe, or >>>>>>>> the nice graceful swoopy one like Gus / Susie / Charlie? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1" threaded or 1-1/8" threadless (like Gus)? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Heavier tubing (like Gus), or lighter duty (like Susie)? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/98827d3d-de52-4822-8c00-5f685436c7f5n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/98827d3d-de52-4822-8c00-5f685436c7f5n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6f387ba3-fbf9-4d8b-ac4e-9ea2dad3e26cn%40googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6f387ba3-fbf9-4d8b-ac4e-9ea2dad3e26cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b798d660-1dcd-4f98-aeb9-7d54e9d1cf3bn%40googlegroups.com.
