Gus / Susie are fillet brazed frames. They’ve mentioned several times how that was a big factor in these frames being so pricey and difficult to produce, which is why they are moving to a different method of joining the tubes with this new iteration.

On May 15, 2023, at 6:31 PM, Zac Terrones <zac.terro...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm thinking this as well. Didn't they say something about the swooptube being hard to do with lugs? They've only done tig frames with swooptubes right? Charlie, gus/susie etc. 



On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 12:06:42 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
My no evidence fantasy guess is if it's a lugged hillibike variation it'll be something more akin the Hunqapillar but with some updated "riv" quality of life improvements. Maybe gus like room for rubber and longer wheelbase. As much as I like swoopy tubes - diamond frames and frame bag capacity is a nice feature for "adventure" bikes. 

On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 10:50:12 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
I agree with Joe. There isn't. a huge need for a Susie variant when the Clem L already kind of covers that. 

On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 1:20:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
My guess is swooptube. My hope is it leans towards the Gus side of the equation with 1-1/8" threadless and heavier duty tubes, I feel that the Susie/Wolbis side was already adequately covered by like 7 different Rivbikes. I've just started trail riding again (after many years) and may pop for this new frame if it specs out to my preferences. 

Joe Bernard 

On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 9:35:53 AM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone know anything specific about this new Hillibike iteration scheduled for October? Care to make any speculations or predictions? According to the latest Riv IG post, it only says "lugged, green and dark gold".

My main questions are:
Will it have a straight top tube like the Platy / Roscoe Bubbe, or the nice graceful swoopy one like Gus / Susie / Charlie?

1" threaded or 1-1/8" threadless (like Gus)?

Heavier tubing (like Gus), or lighter duty (like Susie)?

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