Of course that was an opinion Joe. And because you also noted concern
about having "to remove one torqued to that number," I thought it useful
to introduce my direct experience with lockrings, measured torque
values, and good old Phil grease. Heck, for some reason lately I've been
installing and removing several. So I come from that.
Anyway, I'm not sure why my experience with these parts and tools made
my comments seem unaware of your perspective. Sorry about that.
Dave, who finds that using a torque wrench more and more after 30 years
of wrenching mainly without is like a .725 free throw shooter in the NBA
working to make himself a .900 shooter on freebies since my hands are
good enough now but they could be significantly better and in fact my
hands better learn the various common torques even as I use the tool
P.S. Can you tell I have playoff basketball on my mind?
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On 5/1/23 1:29 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:
Also my "seems crazy high" is an opinion. I didn't realize I needed to
specify "seems to ME" but here we are.
On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 9:49:31 AM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
Dave -
I guess my comment might have led you to believe that I have a
tough guy mechanic attitude which just isn’t the case. I have
over-torqued lockrings, but it’s easy to back off and the issue of
over-torquing isn’t dire like with over-torquing a threaded bb (I
always use a torque wrench for that).
Be that as it may, most (not all) bike mechanics I’ve met are not
tough guys looking to prove a point. My aim with my comment was to
share my opinion that most hobbyists spend too much time faffing
with tools and buying tools when that often isn’t needed/is overly
expensive.
Luke, a sensitive, approachable bike mechanic who wishes to lower
the economic entry point for at-home mechanics as much as possible
On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 4:19:20 AM UTC-7 David Hallerman wrote:
40Nm doesn’t seem crazy high in practice. I regularly use a
torque wrench to reach that cassette lockring value. And yet
the ring is typically quite easy to take off, with greased
threads of course.
While most of us have a good feel for the needed tightness of
various bike threads, I often prefer a torque wrench since it
gets me closer to exact than hand feel might. For me, the
higher the required Nm value, like a lockring’s 40Nm, the more
difficult it can be to get exact (or close to) without a
torque wrench.
Dave, who sometimes gets the impression that some bike
mechanics think working without a torque wrench is somehow
more masculine
On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 3:43 AM Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I just installed one tonight by feel and noted the torque
recommended is 40Nm, that seems crazy high. I hope I never
have to remove one torqued to that number!
On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 12:25:50 AM UTC-7 Luke
Hendrickson wrote:
Also… we don’t use a torque wrench at my shop for
cassettes and tighten by feel. A torque wrench isn’t a
must for everything in my experience.
On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 12:24:31 AM UTC-7 Luke
Hendrickson wrote:
30E3AEA4-5CBE-428E-9C34-ECC1F1826857.pngAdam,
I just purchased the attached which can be had for
about $40-50.
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 10:47:06 AM UTC-7
Adam wrote:
Thanks everyone,
I managed to make time to sort it out (can't
stand not to have things riding shape) and the
case is closed for now.
It came off with a bit of a struggle. There
were a few bits of aluminum, which I cleaned
off. Everything looks fine, so I re-greased,
re-installed and took it a little easier on
the tightening. All seems good to ride.
Thanks all!
Adam
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 12:34:11 PM UTC-5
Joe Bernard wrote:
Agreed with Ian, when it comes to
reinstalling my procress is to give it a
good extra tug after the clattering "it's
tight" sounds start and call it a day.
I've tried removing the way-too-tight ones
and it ain't pretty!
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 8:26:50 AM
UTC-7 Ian A wrote:
I'd be inclined to unscrew the
lockring now, while the grease is
fresh. I've always erred on the side
of not tight enough with lockrings
because if they do unscrew in use the
only thing that has happened for me is
the shifting has gone weird.
When you unscrew it, just be careful
the removal tool is firmly seated. If
needed and just to get it broken
loose, you could use a QR and a couple
of washers to make sure it can't slip
and strip the female splines on the
lockring.
IanA
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at
8:06:35 AM UTC-6 Adam wrote:
Hi all,
Asking for thoughts on a silly
mistake that I made last night.
I was in the process of replacing
a cassette (had not tried this
myself before) and I cranked way
too hard on a fairly long wrench
and over-tightened the lock ring.
It dug into the cassette and
produced some little shards. (I
did grease the threads, and don't
think it's cross-threaded, all was
fine until the END)
The question: does it make better
sense to try to fix this now
(loosen and re-tighten), or should
I just save this problem for an
older, wiser me in a year or two
when I change the cassette again?
I know I should get a torque
wrench, but . . .
THANKS!
Adam
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