The hub looks lovely. But enlighten me please. What is TC and TF? On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 7:05:05 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
> Patrick, kudos on the return to appearance and function of that hub! Stuff > that works deserves to be kept serviceable and this is certainly a great > example. The fact that your senses are rewarded by its operation under your > riding circumstances and that you have been able to return it to original > or better condition is awesome. Thanks for sharing your observations and > its progress. > > I am in the camp of those who perceive the bike part makers narrowing > their objectives and becoming interested mainly in selling the latest > gizmos to people of either experience or mostly of concern for keeping up > with the latest kit rather than propagating continued use of something made > previously. That new hub based system that can vary tire pressure comes to > mind, which is really a "say no more" item in my mind compared to your hub. > > Andy Cheatham > Pittsburgh > > > > On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 5:29:05 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: > >> Ian: Here finally are photos as I promised of the 1999 Joe Starck fixed >> gear 26" wheel custom with the TC hub and with the Elk Pass tires back on >> in place of the Naches Passes. >> >> I'm copying the list in case anyone is interested. >> >> The TC came from a IHG aficionado on the IGH list who has owned far more >> old SA IGH hubs than I. The innards were good, so I had the rusty shell >> re-chromed in Seattle and the innards inspected, cleaned, and lubed by >> IGH-meister Aaron at Rat City Bikes in the same city (Aaron orchestrated >> the chroming at a local shop). Aaron also swapped out the TC-specific >> 12-spline driver for a modern AW driver so I can use modern 3/32" cheap SA >> cogs. (The TF has the same 12-spline pattern but won't accept an AW driver, >> so I had modern cogs adapted to fit that 12-spline driver; works fine.) >> >> Again: TC: direct + 86.54%, so 76" and 66"; TF: direct + 75% -- like >> shifting from a 52 to a 39 t ring: 76" and 57". >> >> The TF has almost no lash; it feels much like the Phil fixed/fixed hub. >> The TC has less lash than the unfortunate S3X but enough that it seems to >> have the defects of freewheel and fixed: there is much banging on over-run. >> Perhaps I need to work on my pedal stroke. >> >> If anyone has a TF and would like to trade for an as-new TC, please look >> me up. (Craig: are you listening? Otherwise it's a shout into the abyss, >> I'm sure.) I can get similar ratios to the TC with my Phil and a 17/19 >> Dingle: 76" and 68", and the wheel has a QR skewer. >> >> Altogether under $500 total for the hub, about half what I spent for the >> TF which was NOS with all the bits including the quadrant shifter on the >> tt, + a handfull of NOS 1/8" 12-spline SA cogs, all shipped from England. >> >> Shifter: That's the TF shifter in the picture. I had thought it pulled >> insufficient cable to shift the TC reliably; on my first test runs the TC >> started to skip in underdrive after a few miles. Looking back on things, I >> rather think that was because I had one of those combo >> slotted-head/Phillips head screws on the clamp and didn't torque it down >> hard enough. I replaced that bolt with an allen head bolt and at least on >> today's ride there was no skipping. But I did not stand and mash mightily >> up hills in underdrive. I did find a NOS -- and much prettier: silver -- >> quadrant 3-speed shifter on British eBay, which has a much longer pull >> between 1 and 2 than between 2 and 3, and I may install that when I next >> mess with the wheel and shifting setup. >> >> I'm sure everyone has long since stopped reading, so I'll stop writing. >> But nice mid-workday ride on a pretty Spring day at 61*F, sun (finally!), >> low humidity, and moderate wind. >> >> I add a couple of pics of #2 with the TF and the Naches Passes, which I >> rode for a week or so on our moisture-firmed ditchbank roads. >> >> >> -- >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7c2df9c4-cdd2-42af-b932-43904b6add7cn%40googlegroups.com.
