Hello, curious about your height and PBH given the saddle hieght displayed 
here, is this a 59cm frame? great set up btw!
Damon

On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 4:38:35 AM UTC+11 mma...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here's another example from a mate who put me on to Clem L and is the 
> top-ranking Clem L enjoyer in Los Angeles.
>
> On Monday, January 17, 2022 at 9:08:18 AM UTC-8 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>
>> As much as I think rackless systems are neato, and it's easy to run 
>> pannier free with the many bag manufacturers now in fair weather and s240 
>> style camping. I absolutely love the look of low rider racks and good set 
>> of panniers which are great except for lots of bumpy roads and narrow 
>> single track. 
>>
>> On Monday, January 17, 2022 at 9:51:17 AM UTC-7 mma...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Here's how I loaded my Clem L for seven or so days on the road (OAK - 
>>> SLO, very slow). I regret not having a rack for panniers; it was a pain 
>>> digging around and packing the Nelson longflaps with not enough room for my 
>>> gear. Having more bags would have helped spreading items out for easy 
>>> access and packing. In any case, Clem L handles really well while carrying 
>>> gear and feels acceptably "fast" for multi day touring.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 9:56:36 AM UTC-8 meti...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I certainly plan to pack my new Clem L for camping! 
>>>>
>>>> Long ago I spent weeks in Europe (on several different trips) on a 
>>>> packed-out Motobecane Grand Touring bike with skinny little tires. I added 
>>>> a temporary Blackburn rear rack, slapped some panniers on it, threw some 
>>>> sort of front-bar bag on the handlebars, and despite tons of flats (we 
>>>> eventually stuck to the roads rather than gravel trails), the bike did 
>>>> fine 
>>>> and we had a blast. I’m sure it wasn’t pretty, but it was wonderful, and 
>>>> now I can flip a bike over and whip out a tube change like nobody’s 
>>>> business. 
>>>>
>>>> (I’ve traveled a number of the Adventure Cycling Association routes the 
>>>> same way, too, Jeff, and it was so much fun to see how other bicyclists 
>>>> handled their gear. We can complicate the most simple experiences, and I 
>>>> want to be more like those easy travelers…they make me laugh)
>>>>
>>>> Anything will work, if you let it. :) Have fun on your bike-camping 
>>>> trips.
>>>>
>>>> Liz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 11:53:35 AM UTC-5 Jeffrey Arita wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree with John G: pretty much any bike can be used for 
>>>>> cyclotouring/bikepacking.  I don't have a Clem (I have a Rambouillet), 
>>>>> but 
>>>>> Grant designs framesets with strength and reliability in mind.  It is 
>>>>> steel, so absolutely, it should be fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you ever have a chance to visit Adventure Cycling Association's 
>>>>> (ACA) HQ in Missoula, MT, you can see many of the original rigs that were 
>>>>> used.  Absolutely fascinating.  They just took what was available and 
>>>>> invented solutions.  Those folks were animals, too: you gotta check out 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> tall gearing they had.  At the same time, they were young and in the 
>>>>> prime 
>>>>> of their lives.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Fast forward to 2022: there are so many gadgets now to enable one to 
>>>>> attach something to your frame and fork.  Check out Bikepacking.com 
>>>>> <https://bikepacking.com/> for a complete rundown.  They have a 
>>>>> wealth of information.  Be careful though: it is a true rabbit hole.  
>>>>> It's 
>>>>> like going to REI.  You just keep buying stuff!  
>>>>>
>>>>> In 2017 we used (because they were one of the first to market) King 
>>>>> Cage USBs (Universal Support Bolts).  Extremely handy and strong.  We 
>>>>> used 
>>>>> sets of them to support King Cage Manything Cages on our forks for the 
>>>>> Great Divide.  They were truly tested: because we could be cycling 
>>>>> through 
>>>>> areas with no water sources for our water purifier, we carried 3-liter 
>>>>> containers of water.  Note: there are now several solutions out there in 
>>>>> addition to the King Cage USB.
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy and have fun!
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>> Claremont, CA 
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S.: Voile straps are your friend!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 7:47:22 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Wondering if there are any Clem L owners here using their rig  for 
>>>>>> bikepacking excursions? Seems like an ideal platform in spite of having 
>>>>>> no 
>>>>>> space for a framebag nor fork mounted braze ons for anything or similar 
>>>>>> cages. I am thinking of front and rear mimimalist racks from Tumbleweed 
>>>>>> as 
>>>>>> they include the anything / manything cage mounts. Curious what others 
>>>>>> might be doing?
>>>>>
>>>>>

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