...I would rather wait until April to buy a new Clem in RBW blue, rather than buy a used RBW framset at this point in time.
On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 6:12:01 PM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote: > The Clem Smith Jr.s' will be back in April. That's wonderful news. I > thank-you very much for the information. I appreciate it. > In the meantime, I can close my eyes and imagine my lime olive frameset is > a RBW blue color. Obviously not when I am cycling on my Clem. > > I contacted the seller of the $3900.00 Clem Smith Jr. "L" out of Portland, > Oregon last night. I asked him/her, if there was interest in selling the > frameset/fork/headset/BB. I got this response: > > " Possibly. > Someone is coming to look at the bike tomorrow. I’ll probably give it at > least a few weeks before parting it out. > I’ll keep you in the loop / you’ll see it posted if i wind up going that > route. > (Obviously if for some reason you wanted to buy frame for $3,000 the > answer would simply be yes.)" > > I thoroughly agree with you that the seller's pricing is very extreme by > $1000.00 too much. If it were a Gus or a Susie, I would completely > understand. > > I would rather wait til April to buy a new Clem, rather than a used one at > this point in time. > > Kim Hetzel > Yelm, WA. > > > On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 11:11:26 AM UTC-8 [email protected] > wrote: > >> Hey Kim, believe it was in a Riv email over the last couple months that >> the Clem will be back in April! Not sure if that was frames or completes >> though. Hopefully they’ll have a blue frame for you! >> >> That one for sale is nice, but $3900 seems a bit crazy. I’d sell my Susie >> for that and it’s a nicer build! >> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 7:22:54 AM UTC-8 [email protected] >> wrote: >> >>> I meant to say that I would really love to buy a 59cm Clem Smith Jr. "L" >>> frameset in RBW blue and turn around and sell my 59cm lime olive frameset. >>> >>> Kim Hetzel >>> Yelm, WA. >>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:40:53 PM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote: >>> >>>> Thank-you, Joyce. I appreciate it. >>>> >>>> Kim Hetzel >>>> Yelm, WA. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:28:37 PM UTC-8 JAS wrote: >>>> >>>>> Kim, there's a blue 59 Clem L on the Portland Craigslist for you >>>>> though it's a fully built bike. >>>>> >>>>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-clem-smith-step-thru/7583972221.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --Joyce >>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 7:32:27 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Both. I wanted to use a Chocomoose handlebar set-up on the XL Susie >>>>>> and it felt too stretched out for me when I was checking different >>>>>> options >>>>>> for the build that never happened. A 88 PBH put me high and low for >>>>>> these >>>>>> two sizes. Ended up with a few extra stem/bar combinations. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 17:22:41 UTC-8 [email protected] >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> So was the XL a reach for you (bad pun) or are you truly between >>>>>>> sizes? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Paul M <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I was hoping for a large when they went on sale last year and they >>>>>>> certainly sold out fast. The XL is fine in the height but it's 68.5cm >>>>>>> effective top tube is so long. The 56cm has a 66cm top tube length. >>>>>>> They >>>>>>> used a 31.8mm diameter top tube on the XL (like the Gus) and a 28.6mm >>>>>>> top >>>>>>> tube on the 56cm and smaller frames. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 16:30:47 UTC-8 [email protected] >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I wasn’t going to mention to very nice Large gold Susie I have >>>>>>>> listed on here but I guess it’s okay. Haha. That green looks super >>>>>>>> nice >>>>>>>> Paul! I’m glad you were able to snag a Large, they go quick! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:22:00 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have a new XL (59cm) Lime-Olive Susie Longbolt frameset for sale >>>>>>>>> that I'm most likely posting later in the week. I picked up a 56cm >>>>>>>>> Susie >>>>>>>>> from the most recent Rivendell offering of the Hillibikes and need to >>>>>>>>> pass >>>>>>>>> the bigger one on. Price is $1900 plus shipping. New never ridden. >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Paul >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 12:56:29 UTC-8 JW wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> All Susie/Gus are fillet brazed, regardless of color. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There was talk of going to tig welded after the last batch but it >>>>>>>>>> sounds like they'll be discontinued all together. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 12:51:03 PM UTC-8 >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Steve! I too decided to part ways with my previous bike >>>>>>>>>>> which was a lugged 1983 Specialized Expedition (kinda like a Homer) >>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>> what I really wanted was a step through frame. I initial wanted >>>>>>>>>>> (and still >>>>>>>>>>> do) was a 52cm Clem Smith L with ATB qualities. After building, I >>>>>>>>>>> realized >>>>>>>>>>> the Gus not really step through but its okay, I still enjoy it. >>>>>>>>>>> Also, I >>>>>>>>>>> thought all Gus/Susie are filet brazed, are they not? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 12:26:11 PM UTC-5 >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ron, judging from the pic your Gus looks to be one of filet >>>>>>>>>>>> brazed models? Nicely done build! I've been thinking about a >>>>>>>>>>>> Homer, but >>>>>>>>>>>> more and more the ATB qualities of the Gus/Susie and even the >>>>>>>>>>>> Platypus are >>>>>>>>>>>> looking attractive, and I think would be a better successor for my >>>>>>>>>>>> hard >>>>>>>>>>>> tail carbon fiber MTB that I've decided to part ways with. >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 1:32:17 PM UTC-5 >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> First time Riv owner here sharing pics of my Gus build. I had >>>>>>>>>>>>> lots of inspiration from the Blue Lug website >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://bluelug.com/contents/rivendell/gus-boots.php>. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> have only rode it a few miles though and still trying to get the >>>>>>>>>>>>> squeal out >>>>>>>>>>>>> of the brakes. So far so fun! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nWnCevTy8pV3AKNZ7 >>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_3291.JPG] >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 6:59:32 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard, that is a fine and lovely bicycle. Enjoy! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe "I want one" Bernard >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 3:22:30 PM UTC-8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You all are right. I just got my wheels / tires and got my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first good look at this rig in person. The bb is much higher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anticipated - within 1/2 centimeter of my full suspension MTB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (for sale:)). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This beast should be a hoot. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2023, at 9:12 AM, Ryan Frahm <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I run a 172 on my Susie and it is plenty high with the 2.5” >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for some pretty chunky terrain. I have a 170 on my Clem with 2” >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about an inch lower. These bikes are so long that I understand >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanting a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit more clearance but if a 170 is comfortable I think the bike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is high >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough to pedal through anything these bikes can pedal through. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting used to the Susie as a mountain bike really. Chunky >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climbs are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tough for me because if I get off the seat at all, instant loss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> traction. Pedal strikes hasn’t been an issue at all though. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 5:58:06 AM UTC-8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fair point(s). As you can imagine, the full suspension bike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has a pretty high bb, though not as high as current comparable >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bikes. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rarely experienced pedal strokes even pedaling through stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that at my age >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I probably should not be doing!:) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just looked at available solutions & thought it might be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beneficial to shorten the cranks on the Gus to approximate the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearance I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enjoyed on the suspension bike. To do so would require a 550mm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crank arm. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be honest, I had one particular & disconcerting pedal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strike riding the Clem that really got my attention. This was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> familiar sweeping turn but off camber section that I always >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pedal through. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The pedal dug into the uphill side of the bank & I nearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crashed. It was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just so unexpected. I’ve accepted the notion that I may have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to ride a bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slower & less aggressive than I am used to. But to the degree >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimize these things with the right choice now seems smart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2023, at 8:01 AM, Brian Turner < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your intent to avoid crank or pedal contact, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but personally I wouldn’t base my crank length on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> potential for pedal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strikes on rocks and roots. In this case, I would fall into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the camp of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being conscious of the terrain, refining your technique, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being mindful >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of your own personal skill level. If you’re getting lots of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strikes with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say, a 170mm or 165mm crank, I wouldn’t be confident that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going even >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shorter than that is going to necessarily solve your issue. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2023, at 7:45 AM, Richard Rose < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Legit question. I am moving from a full suspension trail >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bike to the Gus. I have ridden my Clem (27.5 x 2.25) with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 173mm cranks and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been reminded of how alarming pedal strokes can be! But, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enjoy the trail experience on the Clem otherwise. I realize >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Gus has a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slightly higher BB than the Clem & the Gus is 29 x 2.6. So >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes, I am trying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be mitigate possible problems. I like the Silver crank on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Clem but I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will likely use a 165mm Crank on the Gus. But, I am watching >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with keen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interest the increasing availability of even shorter cranks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And yes, I know technique comes into play here, and I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking forward to refining mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2023, at 12:01 AM, iamkeith <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 4:59:23 PM UTC-7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am feeling so very lucky to have found a Gus. On the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subject of Gus/Susie bikes; who among us are using a crankset >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with shorter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 165mm cranks in an effort to improve pedal clearance on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rough trails? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve been researching available cranks and finding >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting possible >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> benefits other than pedal clearance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried a longer crank, or are you just building >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yours up for the first time and assuming you'll want more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearance? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Based perhaps on experience with other rivendell models.) My >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conplaint about my Susie is that the botgom bracket is too >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> high. Its not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at all like my Clem or my other most-ridden mountain bikes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> companies, that are all much lower.. I've probably learned >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to adjust my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pedaling technique from previous experience, and my huge 2.8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tires probably >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have something to do with it too but, in case you haven't done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so, you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should try it with normal/long* cranks to see if it is really >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an issue. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (*mine are 175) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On topic - it is definitely sad to see these go. Grant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orginally said that it might only be the first batch that was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fillet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brazed, but didn't suggest that the models would just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "disappear." Seems a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shame to throw in the towel and not keep them going in some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> form, even if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they're just tigged. That's how the Charlie Gallop - with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar top tube >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> curve - will be built, right? With the Clem(entine) moving >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> further away >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from its original mountain/hill bike concept, and with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hunquapillar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long gone, this just feels like a slot that needs filled to me. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 8, 2023, at 11:52 PM, Joe Bernard < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently the fillets cost more to do, the Gus/Susie are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already $250 more than the lugged frames and were going to go >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they did another run. These are great frames, if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money/opportunity ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lines up for me I'm going to grab a Gus. If you want one now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cash, buy it! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe Bernard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 8:18:04 PM UTC-8 Luke >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hendrickson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I guess the frame builders prefer making lugged >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> framesets over fillet brazing. Too bad, but looking forward >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the bike Riv >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes that’s sorta between the Susie & Gus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 7:32:22 PM UTC-8 Paul M >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you read the current Rivendell Blahg (Grants blog) he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentions that the last fillet brazed Hillibikes, the Gus & >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Susie shipment >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that just arrived, will be it for that those models being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made. 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