Rene Herse sells bolt on centerpulls. [image: Bolt on.JPG]
I had the chain rest installed on my Rivendell Custom. Rivendell used to sell a clamp-on version. [image: frame (2).jpg] Laing On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 12:54:01 AM UTC-5 Bill Gibson wrote: > I see derailleurs for sale for $20, and up. I bet they shift just fine > with skillful installation and practice. Dura-Ace costs a little more than > the Nivex Nuevo, but not much, which I guess is a statement about the place > in the universe the Nivex claims. Better and lighter and cheaper than > Dura-Ace! The price is not the point. The point is, well like, Louis > Armstrong said, "If you have to ask what jazz is, you'll never know." It > is about pure mechanical joy. I would love to ride with it. I am surprised > that indexing came before friction, but will be interested in future > batches. I'd like to see a bolt-on version, even though I know the braze-on > version is better, hands down. I might put a bolt-on version on my > Quickbeam. I come from the era when the "best" frames had no braze-ons, > only clamp-ons. Something about heat damaging the frames of that time. Same > for the Herse brakes, a bolt-on adapter for those, and a path to integrated > heaven for the masses, imagined or real. Heck, I want a chain rest, too. > > Bill Gibson > Tempe, Arizona, USA > My Photographs <https://billbgibson.myportfolio.com/> : > https://billbgibson.myportfolio.com/ and on Behance: > https://www.behance.net/BillGibson <https://billbgibson.myportfolio.com/> > > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 12:22 PM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> As Grant said circa 1997: "We are product driven, not market driven." >> >> I don't have a use for very wide sweepback bars or a Nivex rd, but I do >> admire them both for forcing the design and creation of things they love in >> a market where everything is flowing in the opposite direction, *and* it's >> not an apparent expensive "lifestyle" or "style alone" thing as Silca's and >> Chaterlea's new offerings seem to be. (But I am open to correction about >> Silca and Chaterlea.) >> >> Patrick Moore, who hedged his close-ratio 3-speed Sturmey Archer bet with >> a second, backup AM hub. >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 12:12 PM Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> ... In my book Jan and Grant are exactly the same. Both took enormous >>> time, effort and expense to execute a project they believe in. Neither >>> will make money for their companies. Neither was a publicity stunt. They >>> just believed in something and decided to do it. Both think all current >>> derailers are great. Both wanted to offer an alternative choice. Both >>> would not have bothered if such a thing was available today. If you want >>> one, buy one. If you don't want one, no problem. >>> >> -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgsBBm13fNJETmfX%3DDucnbEkNLZjVCqg_LHq%2B9uc0uBaoA%40mail.gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgsBBm13fNJETmfX%3DDucnbEkNLZjVCqg_LHq%2B9uc0uBaoA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d0fbc93a-8109-41f1-a965-0b7c44623c56n%40googlegroups.com.