John,
My chain ring is a double...38x24. I think it will work if I can get it 
adjusted. That is some good information though and I will keep it in mind. 
The collective knowledge here in this group is a fantastic resource.
Doug

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 8:47:45 PM UTC-5 John Hawrylak wrote:

> Doug
>
> It sounds like the FD does not move far enough to the inside to shift to 
> the granny of a triple with the low adjustment screw all the way out.  A 
> possibility is your FD is designed for a front chain line greater than you 
> actual front chain line.   FD have about 20mm of sideway motion and if the 
> front chain lines are mismatched AND the crank ring spacing is > 5mm, the 
> FD can move to the granny.
>
> Suggestion:
> Measure the front chain line to the middle chain ring and compare it to 
> the design value for the FD
> Measure the front chain line of the granny ring.  If the middle - granny 
> is > 5mm (like 7 to 8 mm on a Sugino XD/TD crank you may have a problem.
>
> Possible solution:  Get an old triple FD designed for a 45 mm front chain 
> line, like a FD-MT-60 form the 80's.  I bought a Sora FD-3030b (9spd) with 
> a FCL of 45m and it shifts a Sugino TD-2 46-36-26 with problem.  The 
> XT-FD-M781-AX6S had a FCL of about 50mm and could not shift to the 28T 
> granny.  TD-2 ring spacing is 8mm Outer to Middle and 5mm Inner to Small.  
>  I bought the Sora from Universal Cycles  for $34.88.  My FD-MT60 also 
> shifted it fine, part of a Biopace crank on a 88 Schwinn Voyaguer.
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:41:41 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I want to tap into the collective knowledge here. I need to adjust my 
>> Shimano Deore front derailer on my Clem. It looks to be aligned properly. 
>> Is it proper to tighten the cable when the chain is on the small ring and 
>> largest rear cog? Should the H and L screws be all the way screwed in when 
>> I start the adjustment? I was able to get it to shift but the low screw is 
>> pretty much all the way out so it just seems to be off in some way. And, 
>> after a couple of rides it seems to come back out of adjustment. Any advice 
>> would be most appreciated. 
>> Doug
>>
>

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