I plugged it into the trail calculator with a 42mm tire and it says 58mm
trail. What a coincidence!

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 5:00 PM Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 650B. It looks huge because it is..this is in a sense a frame built for a
> disability, I have arthritis in my hands and asked for a super-upright
> Bosco Bars bike. He's never mentioned how he got to this design but what I
> see and feel is Grant stretched the front way out there, then added a very
> tall headtube so those bars would go up and shoot back at me. Then he added
> the long stays to take the shock out of bumps, which can be brutal enough
> on my wrists to make me turn around and go home.
>
> I see this frame as the ultimate expression of GP's thoughts about high
> bars and long wheelbase because I my needs basically offered: "More of that
> stuff please." 🙂
>
> Joe "happy rider" Bernard
>
> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 4:47:12 PM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Are those 26" wheels or 650B?
>>
>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 4:36:55 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Oh right, I have numbers for why my Rivendell rides the way it does. I
>>> forgot!
>>>
>>> 71.5 seattube, 69.5 headtube. I wanted a pavement-biased frame for
>>> non-touring-level loads and this is how it turned out. [image:
>>> Screenshot_20221117_163140.jpg]
>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 4:02:08 PM UTC-8 John Hawrylak wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> What is the Seat Tube Angle of your custom??
>>>>
>>>> John Hawrylak
>>>> Woodstown NJ
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 5:41:41 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is an edited version of an email I recently sent Grant, I wanted
>>>>> to post here cuz I think the magical Riv ride he designs into these frames
>>>>> is slightly under discussed..like we all know it and love it, then talk
>>>>> about other stuff like paint and parts. My comments are specifically about
>>>>> my custom but I've owned a bunch of Rivs and they all ride like this (Clem
>>>>> maybe not so light-feeling, but still zippy). Add your thoughts about your
>>>>> bikes! :
>>>>>
>>>>> The handling is amazing. It feels light and zippy, yet absorbs shock
>>>>> (there's a lot of shock on these roads) and is very stable. When you put 
>>>>> it
>>>>> in a turn it goes where you point it and holds the line until you change
>>>>> it. It does this when getting bumped offline, too..the darn thing pops
>>>>> right back to where it was going! I've ridden a bazillion bikes and 
>>>>> nothing
>>>>> rides like a Rivendell 🙌
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Bernard
>>>>>
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