I may have to try that IRD FD. I've never been happy with the shifting on 
my triple 9 speed Tiagra 4503 and XT mullet build. I started with brifters 
and later moved to drop bar with the nice XTR trigger shifters. Bike is a 
Jamis Aurora Elite with long chainstays, which I assume would make shifting 
better. Tiagra 50/39/30 triple up front and 9 speed 11/34 cassette in the 
rear. A Shimano (M772 maybe?) Deore XT shadow RD and Tiagra FD. No matter 
what I get chain rub even with trimming and I find I have to increase cable 
tension too much to get consistent shifting into larger cogs which 
sometimes misses on down shifts. I've had my hanger checked for alignment 
and it's just something I've learned to live with.

Pat in DC

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 7:10:36 PM UTC-5 phoen...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the recommendations everyone. I thought about modifying the 
> fender to get that extra space, but would rather spend money to fix the 
> problem, hahaha! Joking aside I’d definitely prefer to just run parts that 
> work well for the job at hand. If that means swapping stuff out, then so be 
> it.
>
> I’ll definitely look into the derailleurs mentioned above. With that said, 
> if anyone has a derailleur laying around let me know. I wouldn’t have a 
> strong preference to one over the next, however if one pops up that’s clamp 
> on vs. a braze on, I’d prefer to go that route, but not a deal breaker if I 
> need to get an adapter.
>
> @ Kai, based on those photos you’d be absolutely right, but there’s about 
> 5-6mm of space between the chainring and the chainstay. It’s just the angle 
> of the photo that makes it look like it hates the chainstay!
>
> @ Peter, if nothing pops up here I’ll give you a ring!
>
> Also, sorry for the long winded post above. I wanted to provide info in 
> hopes that maybe this can help someone with a similar issue down the line.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 1:54:38 PM UTC-8 J Imler wrote:
>
>> I agree with Kai.
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 10:08:16 AM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>> NY wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know if there's a front derailleur to fix the clearance issue, 
>>> but looking at your photo from above, it looks like you need some more 
>>> clearance between your big ring and your chainstay. 
>>> A wider bottom bracket would fix everything, I think?
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 2:34:16 AM UTC-5 phoen...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Link to photos <https://photos.app.goo.gl/ft4S7XXqfUA9bcXaA>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 11:29:37 PM UTC-8 Todd G wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Link to images: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ft4S7XXqfUA9bcX
>>>>>
>>>>

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