Since I didn't REALLY want to mangle the pods, I decided to dremed the 
square centered washer spacers. A few minutes carefullt carving on each and 
I got the stopper washers to fit over the indexing alignment bump.

Here's hoping for the best on my ride this evening. 
I really live in a charmed world... Amixing shifting on the downtube where 
I have to lean dow a couple inches vs quick-access bar end with MAYBE a bit 
of bonus friction from the housing. 

Cheers!
Ben

On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 10:45:22 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote:

> The half-round function is to locate the indexing function of the indexing 
> shifters correctly. Not strictly necessary, but it makes it impossible to 
> install an indexing shifter incorrectly - idiot proofing. It is easily 
> removed with a file or Dremel to allow silver or Dia-Compe friction 
> shifters to be installed.
>
> Laing
>
> On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 1:00:01 PM UTC-4 bunny...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> More shifter nerd talk!
>>  
>> Attemped to mount the silver shifter onto the shimano pod this morning 
>> and ran into a snag. Many of you probably know this, but if not, here's the 
>> deal.
>>
>> Here's a photo of the Shimano Pod. Thanks Park Tool!
>> https://www.parktool.com/assets/img/repairhelp/barendshifter44.jpg
>>
>> There is a little extra half-circle of metal on the little square area 
>> where one fits a spacer/washer. The shimano spacer fits right over it. The 
>> standard square-hole washer does not. Riv obviously knows ths=is because 
>> their silver pods do not have this half-circle.
>>
>> The only reason I can fathom why this is there is to make the Shimano 
>> pods not be compatible wiuth other bands of shift levers. They probably 
>> don't want people futzing around. I believe I can dremel that half-circle 
>> off and fit my washer, and it will also not affect the shimano performance 
>> in any way if I want to put the Shimano shifters back on. 
>>
>> For now, I will remain a downtube shifter user and see if/when I go crazy 
>> ;)
>>
>> Ben
>> On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 3:53:11 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am with you Ben! First 20+ mile ride with the Silver thumbie rear. 
>>> Shifting is buttery smooth - love it! It is so responsive & precise feeling.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Ben Adrian <bunny...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Pointless updates because I just like talking bikes. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Ever since I rerouted my cables, my performance has been very good. 
>>> However, I've never tried any of the Suntour/Silver ratchet shifters and 
>>> I've always been curious. I found a used set here so I grabbed them. I 
>>> gently removed my rear derailleur cable, wrapped the cable and housing, and 
>>> tied it down to my rack. Then I mounted the SIlver shifter to the DT boss 
>>> an ran the a new rear cable to the RD. WOw, these are really nice. And the 
>>> direct cable run gives me the smoothest performance yet. 
>>>
>>> So now... set up the front and leave it as a DT shifter bike, or try 
>>> mounting the Silvers on my Shimano pods and do full friction bar-end? 
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 7:42:14 AM UTC-7 Dorothy C wrote:
>>>
>>>> I do a half and half set up with my Roadini - Silver One levers, front 
>>>> shifter on the downtube and rear shifter on an IRD stem mount.  You can 
>>>> just leave out the left threaded insert from the stem mount for a neater 
>>>> appearance
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 6:48:00 PM UTC-7 bunny...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey all! Just looking for some gear chat.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a Rambouillet with drop bars. I'm finally getting everything 
>>>>> comfortable, but I've been around the block with my shifters.
>>>>>
>>>>> My bike came with 8 speed bar end shifters. However, when I did my 
>>>>> first configuration I mounted them on the downtube. They worked great. It 
>>>>> was kind of a bummer to reach down, but I went with it because I loved 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> simplicity and getting the cables off the handlebars. 
>>>>>
>>>>> After a while I decided to put them back in the bar ends. I had 
>>>>> previously used bar ends for a long time, so it felt like home. However, 
>>>>> I 
>>>>> have a front Mark's rack with a basket and the derailleur cables were 
>>>>> always getting in the way of the front stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I just ran the cables fully under the bar tape and that install 
>>>>> works great to get stuff out of the way, but now my shifting performance 
>>>>> is 
>>>>> pretty bad from the twisty cable runs; much worse than any other 
>>>>> configurations.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, nothing is really broken, but I know it can be better. Wondering 
>>>>> if I should try again with a new take on the "not under tape" routing. Or 
>>>>> try downtube again? Or just go nuts and look for a used STI system?
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's chat!
>>>>> Ben
>>>>>
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