Aww, that 80’s vintage Fuji Royale wasn’t so bad as long as you distributed weight properly - about double weight in front compared to back. What was scary were the descents with those side pull road brakes - seriously outmatched for a weighted Royale.
How do I know this? 5+ months touring Europe in ‘84 from UK to Crete. It was an awesome adventure. Far older now but looking to get back into touring again. Atlantis frame arrives Wed. Can’t wait. > On Sep 5, 2022, at 3:22 PM, 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch > <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Patrick > > Have you tried any loads split between the front and the rear??? Say 15# in > front and 30# in rear?? > > John Hawrylak > Woodstown NJ > >> On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 9:14:37 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: >> Just curious, after adjusting my Ortlieb Sports Packers to the front >> lowriders and carrying home about 12 bulky lbs on the front of the 2020 >> Matthews which is a geometrical clone of a 2003 Riv Road custom -- Riv lost >> the geometry chart but I think it's med trail. >> >> 10 or 12 lb makes almost no difference in handling, but it does make >> wheeling the bike one-handed (gripping stem and adjacent bar) through the >> aisles less easy; 20 lb does slow the handling noticeably though not >> impossibly. ~15 evenly divided is about the max for happiness. >> >> Rear loads are more stable. 20 lb in the rear is not noticeable, 30 lb in >> the rear affects handling less than 20 (evenly distributed) does in front, >> and I've carried 45 with the bike still rideable. (For comparo, my best rear >> loader was an early 1970s thinnish wall and normal gauge 531 framed racing >> bike with long stays and shortish front-center: Motobecane Grand Record. >> Though light and flexy, with a very stiff 400 gram Tubus Fly this carried 45 >> better than any stouter-tubed road bike I've owned, including any of 4 Riv >> road models (well, if a first-gen Sam Hill is "road). Another nice rear >> grocery load carrier was an '80s Fuji Royale "12 speed" that actually >> handled better with 20 lb in back than it did unladen; that one hated front >> loads. >> >> So, after that long windup, what is the benefit of front loading on >> Rivendell models. Is it purely convenience? >> >> And, different question: what is the benefit of front loading on >> non-Rivendell low-trail bikes: convenience? >> >> Just curious and describing my own experience. >> >> -- >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/71f8081d-1b81-4629-b121-374866e6e25cn%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9F412434-3671-417F-9C16-C7E1984E278C%40chilmarkresearch.com.
