James
Curious if you find any significant difference in durability for road
riding between the GravelKings and the RH 700x35s or 38s.
Not many (if any) goats head thorns where I live, and pretty smooth paved
roads.
I'm looking for something in the 35-40mm range, and correspondingly
350-400g mass.
Thanks,
Chris
On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 9:23:31 AM UTC-7 MoVelo wrote:
> My Rambo is currently running Panaracer Pari-Motos 650bx42's actual width
> on Velocity A23's. I love these tires on this bike and it has become my
> gravel/all-rounder. I have the Tektro 559's set so I can easily switch over
> to 700c and usually run 35mm in that size. Although it will take 38 the
> fender clearance gets a little sketchy.
>
> On the Legolas I am currently running RH 700cx38's although I have found
> 35's feel a bit firmer with better handling. I do like the cush of the
> fatter rubber.
>
> My two Bridgestone MB's are running RH Rat Trap Pass 26x2" which I love on
> the loose gravel we have around here. They are a bit narrow erthan the
> stated width but still super comfy and confidence inspiring.
>
> The Bridgestone T700 is currently running Panaracer Gravel Kings in
> 700cx38 and will fit fenders.
>
> My Paramount is currently running 700cx35's but I am still trying to
> decide if 32's are a better fit for that bike.
>
> I have a Kona Kapu with 650bx42 RH Baby Shoe Pass' which barely measure
> out to 40mm on Grand Bois rims.
>
> I mainly go for comfort over speed these days. So the wider the better.
>
> James Poulson
> Centralish NE
>
> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 10:58:48 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> I'm a light rider and have run Rene Herse tires in 26, 28, 32, 35, 38 and
>> 48mm widths over the same terrain which is mostly paved roads. Starting at
>> either end of the spectrum, the 26's felt like ice-skating in the best
>> scenario but would flat if I even looked at a gravel road. I wasn't willing
>> to pump them up past 80psi to avoid flats so those got the boot pretty
>> fast. The 48's on the other hand were what I'd call idiot-proof. I would
>> aim for the potholes on pavement and they were disconcertingly confident
>> (and fast!) off-road.
>>
>> 32's and 35's were probably the goldilocks widths for paved rides longer
>> than 70 miles while carrying stuff. If I weighed more, carried more, or the
>> bike was over-built, 38's would be right there too. These days, my rides
>> rarely go past 60 miles so a couple candy bars and 28mm tires on a road
>> bike is all I need.
>>
>> If I were more of a masochist with my riding and knew sleep deprivation
>> and all-road conditions were on the horizon, I'd go with the widest tire I
>> could fit. But if I want to feel quick and nimble, 28-32s do the best for
>> me.
>>
>> - Andrew
>> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 7:29:59 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I have to say that the 559 labeled-32 but measure-27 (skinny rims) RH
>>> Elk Pass tires are the nicest 26" road tires I've used and, in fact, the
>>> nicest road tires of any size I've used, gauging by "feel" of speed* and
>>> feel of smoothness.
>>>
>>> * I personally have never associated buzz or harshness with speed; in
>>> fact, just the opposite: I associate smoothness with speed. Besides
>>> smoothness, the EPs just seem easier to pedal at given cadences in given
>>> conditions at given gears.
>>>
>>> I wish they plumped out at 5 mm wider, but I don't want to change my
>>> rims.
>>>
>>> At 55/60 they feel as smooth over high freq/low amp bumps as the 559X42
>>> mm (41 mm actual) Naches Pass extra lights at 35/40, and they seem easier
>>> to pedal as defined above, though not by a great deal.
>>>
>>> One benefit to the narrower tires is that they do make the bike's
>>> handling feel more nimble -- "crisper." OTOH, the 622X61 mm actual Big One
>>> ELs at 18 to 21 psi on the earlier Matthews feel as easy to pedal ("as
>>> fast" -- similar gearing, conditions, cadences) as the Elk Passes; but very
>>> different bikes and 175 mm vs 170 mm cranks. And these fatties don't feel
>>> all that smoother over small pavement bumps than the EPs or the NPs. It
>>> seems that if you put sufficiently minimum air pressure into very supple,
>>> light tires of any width, the feel over small bumps remains about the same.
>>> I do like bashing over the 5" wide expansion cracks in our streets with the
>>> BOs or the NPs, though; I have to be more careful with the EPs.
>>>
>>> Btw, all 3 frames relatively light tubing. In fact, the 1999 gofast that
>>> has the EPs has the stoutest tubing of the bunch, I think.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 6:38 AM Garth <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For road riding on a compliant frame a 32-33mm feels "just right". Even
>>>> a liitle more narrow is good. My favorite tires these days is a Schwalbe
>>>> Marathon Racer 35mm which measures 32-33mm on a Mavic A719 @37-42 PSI. I
>>>> don't notice them, and that's the point. This is with my Franklin road
>>>> bike. While it can take a 38, it's actually worse with a wider tire. It's
>>>> a
>>>> matter of feel, of detail, of precision and handling. A .3mm mechanical
>>>> pencil feels and writes a whole lot different than a .9mm. A bolder font
>>>> doesn't make these letters any easier or better to read than they are
>>>> presently.
>>>>
>>>> In contrast, I ride my Bombadil on the road and no matter the tire, be
>>>> it 38mm or 50mm, it feels overkill to me. I think it has more to do with
>>>> the nature of the frame and it's handling though. Ironically, even on
>>>> primitive, broken up hole ridden roads I prefer the ride and handling of
>>>> the Franklin road bike. It tends to glide over everything, while the much
>>>> stiffer and wheelbarrow-like steering can be a bit jarring and ragged
>>>> feeling on the same surfaces.
>>>>
>>>> Within the confines of this group it may appear a certain number may
>>>> prefer wide-r tires, isn't it funny how one tends to focus on that which
>>>> agrees, and ignore/dismiss that which does not. In reality "everyone"
>>>> rides
>>>> "everything". Take a look at bicyles/riders all around the world and
>>>> you'll
>>>> find such variety you quickly realize there is a certain silliness to any
>>>> and all claims of this or that tire as "best" or even "required" for this
>>>> or that surface.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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