I’m going to mildly correct Joe; it wasn’t the renaming that made 29ers
successful where the 700c mountain bikes failed, it was the tires. Going
from a ~44mm tire to a 2.1” makes a lot of difference. Add in a suspension
fork, and suddenly you have a bike that can be appreciated by people who
were used to normal mtbs.

Eric

On Wednesday, June 8, 2022, Joe Bernard <[email protected]> wrote:

> Oh you'd probably have to dig a while to come upon this information, most
> of us only know it cuz we were around when the "700c mountain bike" was a
> huge flop, then someone had the bright idea to rename the wheel and the
> 29er was born.
>
> See, also: 650B - an old French size Riv and a couple others revived
> 16-or-so years ago - became 27.5 for MTBs.
>
> Joe "my 650B Riv has 27.5" tires" Bernard
>
> On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 3:29:32 PM UTC-7 Jacob Lopez wrote:
>
>> Well, I feel silly.  A little more research could have answered that!
>> Thanks, folks!  I appreciate that.  Makes sense now, the part where it says
>> 29er *tires*...
>>
>> ~Jacob
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 3:20:16 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> Jacob, 700c and 29er, 29in all refer to the same rim diameter of 622mm.
>>> The term "29er" came about because the mtb crowd wouldn't dare be
>>> associated with them thar road biker crowd so they had to call it
>>> *something*. A fatter tire would only induce toe overlap if the frame
>>> didn't have sufficient clearance to begin with and/or you pedal midfoot
>>> with big feet and long cranks. The latest Clems though have so much
>>> front-center(measured from the center BB to center front axle), none of the
>>> above applies.
>>> On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 6:01:54 PM UTC-4 Jacob Lopez wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, All.
>>>>
>>>> I did a quick search but didn't find a thread, so let me know if you
>>>> know of one re this topic and I can remove this re Clem L's 59cm with 
>>>> 29ers:
>>>>
>>>> I noticed on the Riv site that 59cm Clem's can take 700c rims and "29er
>>>> Tires".  Does that mean that it can take 29in rims, or...?   I may be
>>>> looking to size up on my 52cm Clem L to a 59cm and I'm super curious to how
>>>> 29's perform on this size.  Any experience with that (if, of course I'm
>>>> reading the specs right and the bike can take 29in wheels)?  Does this
>>>> introduce toe-overlap?
>>>>
>>>> Jacob
>>>> San Diego, CA
>>>>
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