I had a Kuat Beta hanging rack and thought it was terrific... as long as I 
took precautions and didn't mind 15 minutes to load a bike.  When a Saris 
Freedom tray rack  was on CL for 1/2 price, I bought it.  A lot less 
futzing with the bike, but it's much heavier than my original rack and I 
need tools to secure it.  It did take much longer to load and secure the 
bikes on the hanging rack, but for me that was the only negative on the 
Kuat Beta.  also, hanging racks are friendlier to fenders; you have to make 
sure your tray rack is (most are not), if your bikes have fenders (mine do).

My brake wire runs along the underside of my top tube and I didn't want it 
to scratch the bike on the hanging rack.  So, I took an old wide inner 
tube, cut it to length of the exposed wire, and sliced it on the inside 
curve so it is now a sleeve between the wire and the top tube.  Also, I 
bought the widest pipe insulation (I think it was 1 or 1 1/2" --get the one 
without the self glue) and cut that to length for the top tube and seat 
tube (the rack touched both) and slipped them over the inner tube/top tube. 
and seat tubes  I found it was easier to just cover the entire tube, than 
make sure just the rack that touched the bikes were protected.  I hang my 
bikes on one of those "above and below" storage racks at home, so if you 
want a picture, let me know, because I use the same protection there.  (I 
haven't gotten pregnant yet, so I know that protection works!  :) )

Sway was also an issue with the hanging rack, so I used two irish straps 
and put one from a lower tube to the end of he "arm" so bike wouldn't sway 
back, and another from a lower tube to the mast, so it wouldn't sway 
back.   Another Irish strap to keep the front wheel from turning left and 
right and also to stop it from spinning.  Finally another irish strap 
between the pedals, tube and back wheel to keep pedals and wheel from 
spinning.  My bikes weren't going anywhere!

The saris Freedom is easier to load and work with, but it's heavier and 
takes up more room (doesn't fold), but it saves me loading time.  It's not 
without it's issues for me, but I use my bike rack many times a month, so 
was happy to save the futzing time.  Otherwise, I'd still be happy with my 
Kuat Beta, but still in the parking lot loading my bike.  There are other 
Saris tray racks that look good and are fender friendly, if your bike has 
fenders.  If you want to stick with a hanging rack, I do recommend the Kuat 
Beta (since sold on CL), along with my tips.  Otherwise, the Saris freedom 
is good and there is another Saris model or two that look even better, as 
they grab the tires rather than the frame.

Roberta

On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 5:09:17 PM UTC-4 Sean B. wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Does anyone have experience with these types of car racks? I recently 
> purchased one, but am now seeing a lot of negative opinions on them. 
> Worried about damaging my girlfriend and I's Rivs. I went to a local Rack 
> Attack store and they suggested the Thule Helium Pro 3. I shouldn't have 
> trusted them as the reviews do not look great. Then again, should I trust 
> online reviews? Hence why I wanted to ask the good people here.
>
> Thanks!
>
>   
>

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