Keith, I hope you find exactly what you are looking for - either model, Clem or Chev/Platy is worthy of adoration. I have sworn the Clem was my favorite and then said the same of the Platy. I do currently give the edge to my raspberry Platypus because I’ve been taking it on club rides and it has been great fun. I wouldn’t try that on my Clem. Anyway, so much can be addressed with simple stem swaps and I hope you find just exactly the right one. There’s an extra-tall Nitto on SomaFab that I have on my Clem - it’s 280mm tall and that lets you get the bars nice and close if you are feeling like your Clem is a little big.
Good luck! Let us know what you decide. Leah > On Apr 27, 2022, at 8:44 AM, 'Keith Swanson' via RBW Owners Bunch > <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Thanks for all of your input-it helps a lot. > >> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 3:48:04 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: >> Don’t get me wrong, your advice seems sound. Mine was a personal experience >> only without any prior Riv sizing reference. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Apr 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>> Well I'm just trying to offer a basic guideline for one particular model >>> whose dimensions have changed a lot over the years. It would appear I'm >>> trying too hard in a thread that doesn't need my input. I'm out! 🙋♂️ >> >>> >>> >>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 1:24:03 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> Hmm, not sure how that would have helped me? I’d of had no useable frame >>>> of reference. The Clem is so long I might have discounted it out of hand. >>>> I was trying to get more comfortable while upright & would not have >>>> thought it possible given the effective top tube measurement. And then on >>>> top of that the bike I was considering came with a 13cm stem! But a few >>>> pedal strokes wa all it took.:) >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On Apr 26, 2022, at 4:10 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> Basically the trick to purchasing any Clem - especially used - is to get >>>>> the effective toptube number and start from there. I know Grant hates >>>>> this advice but you gotta have some kinda guideline if you're not able to >>>>> ride it first. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 12:45:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote: >>>>>> When I spoke to Grant about the Clem a few years ago he suggested the 59 >>>>>> would work well for me but I decided on a 52 in large part for the wheel >>>>>> size. But, that conversation may have been based on the first gen >>>>>> geometry which has changed. >>>>>> Doug >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 3:23:04 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> Interesting observation. I love the fit of my 52 Clem but wonder if I >>>>>>> “should” be on a 59? A little more than a fistful of seatpost showing >>>>>>> and with a 130mm (I know!) FacePater & 650 wide Tosco. The stem is as >>>>>>> high as it can go. So a 59 could work I guess but with a much shorter >>>>>>> stem? According to the size suggestions you reference I should >>>>>>> definitely be on a 52. But based on PBH I could probably be comfortable >>>>>>> on a 59. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2022, at 1:15 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I wish they would cut this part from the product description: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 45cm / 27.5-inch new mountain bikey size wheels. Typical rider height: >>>>>>>> 5-0 to 5-5 >>>>>>>> 52cm / 27.5-inch new mountain bikey size wheels. Typical rider height: >>>>>>>> 5-5 to 5-11 >>>>>>>> It's from the first batch and doesn't even correspond to the PBH recs >>>>>>>> elsewhere in the description. Nobody 5 feet tall is riding a current >>>>>>>> 45cm Clem L. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 8:34:32 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote: >>>>>>>>> Good catch Joe. I think that is a good change and makes sense with >>>>>>>>> the loooong chainstays. >>>>>>>>> Doug >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:28:32 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To clarify, the 45cm Clem L is a 27.5/650b bike now. And longer ETT >>>>>>>>>> than the old 26-ers. >>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 5:23:06 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Keith, >>>>>>>>>>> I ride a 52 Clem and am 5'10" with an 83 PBH. I could ride a 59 I >>>>>>>>>>> think but I prefer the 650b wheels. The 45 Clem has 26 inch wheels >>>>>>>>>>> while the 59 has 700c. It's so cool that wheel size scales to frame >>>>>>>>>>> size! That you can ride multiple sizes is one advantage (of >>>>>>>>>>> several) to the low top tube bikes. Here is a photo of mine set up >>>>>>>>>>> for me and you can see I have plenty of seat post showing. >>>>>>>>>>> Doug >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 7:30:04 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding >>>>>>>>>>>> Ding! wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Keith, here’s a photo of my Platypus; you can see how little seat >>>>>>>>>>>> post is showing. But I promise it’s the right size! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2022, at 7:27 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Keith, I have the 52 Clem and the 55 Platy. They are >>>>>>>>>>>>> completely different bikes and the sizing is confusing because >>>>>>>>>>>>> the 52 Clem feels bigger than the 55 Platypus. I am 5’6”, with an >>>>>>>>>>>>> 81 cm PBH. Technically, I would be sized for the top end of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 Platy, but I like to size up if I can. I have very little seat >>>>>>>>>>>>> post showing, but I can’t imagine riding the smaller-sized >>>>>>>>>>>>> Platypus. I love how the 55 Platypus fits me. The Clem also feels >>>>>>>>>>>>> right to me, but it took a lot of experimenting with stems before >>>>>>>>>>>>> I settled into it. I think I have an 80 on the Clem and a 100 on >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Platy. After riding the Clem, my Platypus will feel a little >>>>>>>>>>>>> cramped to me at the start of the ride. I think a 50 would >>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely feel too small after riding a 52 Clem. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be helpful if you could test ride, but these bikes are >>>>>>>>>>>>> rare as hen’s teeth, aren’t they? People are really nice about >>>>>>>>>>>>> letting other Listers test ride a Rivendell, so maybe post a >>>>>>>>>>>>> “Want to test ride” thread? There might be someone with a 45 Clem >>>>>>>>>>>>> L or a 55 Platy in your area who would let you throw a leg over >>>>>>>>>>>>> it for a hot minute… >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any leads on the bikes you’re considering? I hope >>>>>>>>>>>>> so! I don’t often see Cheviots or Platypuses for sale and it will >>>>>>>>>>>>> be a long wait until Rivendell gets their next shipments. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 10:38:22 PM UTC-4 Keith Swanson >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a 52 Clem L that feels a bit large for me and am trying >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to decide whether to replace it with a 50 Platypus or a 45 Clem >>>>>>>>>>>>>> L (If anyone has a 50 Cheviot frame in silver or blue I would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested). Does anyone know if there's much of a difference >>>>>>>>>>>>>> between the two sizes? 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