That’s a long reach Joe.  Even with Chico bars on my 51 Hillborne I use an 
8cm stem on it’s 56.5 cm TT.  

On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:15:10 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> They need to fix it, especially as the Clem keep growing in reach. No the 
> ETT doesn't tell all but I need to know if a 52cm frame stretches 65cm 
> between seattube and headtube. 
>
> Joe "just gimme the numbers" Bernard 
>
> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 5:56:07 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Yeah I'm pretty baffled that it's taking months to make a couple geometry 
>> charts.  I miss the days when Rivendell were unusually transparent about 
>> geometry and frame details, rather than cagey and defensive as they are 
>> now. I get that it's unusual and they're worried people will misunderstand 
>> the numbers, but that's what disclaimers are for.  
>>
>> On Monday, 4 April 2022 at 16:55:54 UTC-7 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> It’s funny, if you look under bikes and hit geometry there is an apology 
>>> that they are working on it but if you search geometry you get the above 
>>> info.  Hard to sell bikes when you hide info.  
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 7:53:53 PM UTC-4 J S wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/articles/geometry-charts?_pos=1&_sid=69288c595&_ss=r
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 7:14:05 PM UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mine's 56.5cm
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, 4 April 2022 at 14:45:25 UTC-4 Paul Choi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can someone measure their Sam and let me know the TT length? Just 
>>>>>> trying to figure out the stem that I need for an upcoming build. The 
>>>>>> next 
>>>>>> Sam shipment comes in August. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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