I replaced, sort of, my 2005 Surly LHT with a 2011 Waterford Canti-Sam. I rode up and down the West coast and then across the USA on the Surly. I got the Sam as a Country Bike to complement the LHT (this was to remain my loaded touring bike). The Sam ended up being my dedicated touring bike almost right away. It handles whatever sized loads just fine and is significantly stiffer in the BB, which is important to me as a heavy rider. I have done some 2 day tours and some 2 week+ tours on the Sam and the only thing I noticed was some front end wiggle on descents, fixed with setup adjustments. Then in 2017 I finally got my dream bike, a Waterford Atlantis, which is now my touring, etc. bike, but the Sam really can't be beat and I wouldn't hesitate to ride it on any length tour shy of full off-road touring. The LHT has been a frame and fork hanging in my garage for years now. I don't imagine I'll do anything with it, but I have so many memories with it that maybe someday... For what it is worth, my wife has an Appaloosa, and it is awesome! But I would consider it more of a long WB, long TT Atlantis type bicycle. Not my thing, but she loves it. It is stout as F*$K! On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 12:05:02 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:
> I think the Sam is a perfect fit for your wants. I’ve never ridden an > Atlantis or a Joe but my Sam is one of the nicest bikes I’ve ever ridden > and it can easily do all the things you want and it’s lighter than an > Atlantis or Joe. > > Mine is a newer version 54cm. I have an 85 PBH and it’s a perfect fit. > > Thanks, > > Joe > > On Mar 31, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Joe Bernard <[email protected]> wrote: > > You need to look at PBH sizing and effective toptube numbers to find your > size in Sam and Homer, the seattubes will now be in the 51cm range for you. > Great bikes which will cover your needs well, plus I would consider the > Platypus if you want low stepover and canti/v-brakes in a road-ish frame. > > > Joe Bernard > > On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 9:25:00 AM UTC-7 Forrest wrote: > >> I’ve been looking at various RBW models, current and former, trying to >> find one well-suited to light touring (2-4 days light camping) and/or >> credit-card touring. Something that also is suitable for group/club >> non-competitive road/pavement rides. >> >> Something lighter than an Atlantis or Joe Appaloosa. Maybe more like a >> Sam Hillborne or A. Homer Hilsen. Canti or V brakes would be okay (but >> maybe not necessary), and sidepulls would be fine for my purposes, I think. >> >> I know new models of Sam and Homer are not available in my size (55 and >> 54.5). So may look at used, or early-generation models of the AHH. >> >> Thoughts and advice welcome, thanks. >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c27b3791-da13-4f03-af16-7c41736e0171n%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c27b3791-da13-4f03-af16-7c41736e0171n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5c4d3036-886d-4321-b032-787e5ed70e4fn%40googlegroups.com.
