I've never ridden a Homer, but I do have questions about the Pack Rat. I was particularly struck by Surly's description as not-low-trail (JimG's trail calculator gives a trail in the 50s?) and the fact that their blind-test riders preferred this geometry over low-trail, even with large front loads.
Also: - The Pack Rat is a rim brake-only bike. Why rim brakes? Rim brakes avoid the physical and legal compliance constraints that revolve around disc brakes. Designing the Pack Rat around rim brakes allowed us to make the lightest, supplest riding, and most affordable bike we could: Does anyone know what "legal compliance constraints" they refer to? They describe the frame as "supple" which is interesting because -- is this right? -- Surly's frames have a reputation of being overbuilt. Perhaps this is only certain models? At any rate, what I want to know -- here are the questions -- is (a) does the bike handle agile-ly with a 25 lb front load? (b) Does the "really quick" handling happen only with the front unloaded? (c) Does it feel supple? -- IOW, not jarring and stiff compared to lighter-tubed bikes? And of course (d): How heavy a load does it carry without making handling annoying? Thanks. On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 9:20 AM Graham McCall <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm coming from a really short and qucik handling bike- Surly Pack Rat. > I'm curious in starting over and getting a Home for longer rides that would > benefit from some less-nervous handling. > > 58cm is what I'm after, any ride review or insights would be great! > > Thanks, > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/26c60d75-a104-4bbb-afbb-2d6eba4013b8n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/26c60d75-a104-4bbb-afbb-2d6eba4013b8n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgvt%3D%2Bo_y9XVg4t_ji5cNhmmLwS32K2Lxj_%3DJZwvw%2BUc3g%40mail.gmail.com.
