Yeah, they are pricey. Much more than a little marine grease, which is what I used to slather on the spindles of my VP Vice today. Turns out, when I look at all the pedals out there, mine are hard to beat, considering they are every day "just ride" pedals. About 100x100 square, not too heavy, plenty grippy, nice and thin, spin well enough (although admittedly not smooth), and inexpensive. I think I paid $45 for them many years ago. I can't really complain; they have been a good value, all considered.
(Thanks to Garth for reminding me to just throw some grease in them again.) On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 11:55:53 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote: > Man those are pricey but I love that they are about the same weight as > composite pedals, they look great and are made in America. I am going to > give those a shot sometime soon. > > On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:32:38 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Review of the Yoshimura Chilao pedals on The Radavist. >> >> >> https://theradavist.com/2021/10/i-cant-get-enough-of-these-yoshimura-chilao-mtb-pedals/ >> >> >> >> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 7:34:48 PM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote: >> >>> Indeed, those look excellent. Definitely worth a hard look. >>> >>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 6:00:52 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote: >>> >>>> Does the Pedaling Innovations rebuild kit work for VP Vice pedals? It >>>> looks like the axle and bearings are the same. >>>> >>>> Anyone know? >>>> >>>> Also a nice choice for a high-end pedal are these bad boys, made in the >>>> USA: >>>> https://yoshimuracycling.com/products/chilao-performance-bicycle-pedal >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 7:08:29 PM UTC-4 Joe in the Pay Area >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Black Ops Torqlite UL platform pedals, now almost impossible to find. >>>>> And why does my reply have just a half line of height? Can baely see what >>>>> I >>>>> type! >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 9:38:42 AM UTC-7 George Rosselle wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have the Spank Oozy pedals on my Chameleon and like them a lot, >>>>>> metal, low profile, and availabe bushings that are easy to replace. Too >>>>>> bad >>>>>> you don't like composites, I also have Race Face Chesters on a couple >>>>>> bikes >>>>>> and find them to be just as good and much less expensive. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-4 Paul Choi wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I like the Blue Lug MKS XC-III pedals. Not too big and they hold my >>>>>>> 8.5 shoes well. They look like the bear trap pedals that I had on my >>>>>>> Redline BMX bike back in the early 80's. I got mine from Hope Cyclery. >>>>>>> They >>>>>>> have them in six colors. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:39:05 AM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for all the good suggestions, everyone. I'm Narrowing down >>>>>>>> the parameters, I think. So far, what I think I want: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Metal pedal body, not composite. >>>>>>>> 2. Rebuildable pedal (can rebuild parts be had?). >>>>>>>> 3. At least as long as the Vice (106mm, I think). >>>>>>>> 4. At least 100mm wide. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does anyone have experience with the Xpedo Spry? it looks to tick >>>>>>>> some boxes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://xpedo.com/product/pedals/flats/spry/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:18:37 AM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, I did grease theses once already. Grease is inexpensive, so >>>>>>>>> of course, I could regrease them. As for the Catalyst, I don't want >>>>>>>>> to go >>>>>>>>> there for a few reasons: >>>>>>>>> 1. I already experience toe overlap (fenders on my 700c Sam) at >>>>>>>>> times, and the length of the pedal is way longer than the Vice. >>>>>>>>> 2. I don't like riding with my foot so far forward of the axle. In >>>>>>>>> other words, I'm not an arch-pedaler, which is what the Catalyst >>>>>>>>> calls for, >>>>>>>>> unless I'm mistaken. >>>>>>>>> 3. I'm not convinced I need something that long. Again, how long >>>>>>>>> is long enough? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 1:17:51 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Do you add grease to your Vice pedals John ? I always add grease >>>>>>>>>> to any pedal, open them up, slather some grease on the axle and >>>>>>>>>> slide the >>>>>>>>>> body back on the excess oozes out the axle side. I have 2 pairs of >>>>>>>>>> Vice and >>>>>>>>>> they've been flawless. Before these I did this with Wellgo MG-1's. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I wear size 14 shoes and the Vice size and shape works great with >>>>>>>>>> the shoes I wear. I pedal near midfoot, not totally. A longer >>>>>>>>>> platform >>>>>>>>>> would not necessarily be any better. That's what always struck me >>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>> Pedal Innovations. I already pedalled mid foot, my feet were already >>>>>>>>>> "supported"...(as if any other pedal doesn't offer support !). What >>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>> neglect in their "science", is using *short cranks along with a >>>>>>>>>> midfoot stroke*. With 185mm cranks it didn't work for me, too >>>>>>>>>> much of a reach despite a lowered saddle, awkward. With 170 ..... a >>>>>>>>>> little >>>>>>>>>> better but still ... nope. Then I tried 152/150's...... ahhh ...... >>>>>>>>>> sweeeeet spot of both midoot power and pedal speed. As the French >>>>>>>>>> say back >>>>>>>>>> in the day .... soo-play ... soo-play ! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 9:24:43 PM UTC-4 John Bokman >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi all. >>>>>>>>>>> I've been riding VP Vice pedals for a few years now. It took a >>>>>>>>>>> long while (aprx. a year) to get used to riding flats, coming from >>>>>>>>>>> Speedplay Frogs. Finally, it took, and I'm happy on the flats for >>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>> commuter (Sam Hill). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> However, the Vice have developed play, rattle a bit, and >>>>>>>>>>> generally feel gritty, and I have been experimenting with different >>>>>>>>>>> ideas. >>>>>>>>>>> I've recently used the old MKS Touring pedals, and RMX sneaker >>>>>>>>>>> pedals. >>>>>>>>>>> These are okay, but what I've discovered is that for my riding, >>>>>>>>>>> flats >>>>>>>>>>> without connection (no clips/straps, powergrips) feel better >>>>>>>>>>> underfoot with >>>>>>>>>>> a fairly large platform, and low stack height, like the Vice. And >>>>>>>>>>> yet I >>>>>>>>>>> know many of you enjoy the Riv-approved MKS Gamma, lambda, and >>>>>>>>>>> Allways >>>>>>>>>>> models. All of these appear to be taller, and all are narrower than >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> vice. And yet...I wonder: how big is big enough? I'm not racing >>>>>>>>>>> downhill, >>>>>>>>>>> fully padded and helmeted, on a double boinger, like my neice. I >>>>>>>>>>> just ride >>>>>>>>>>> my bike here and there, long distances, when time allows. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I always want to support Riv when possible. But I am looking at >>>>>>>>>>> many other pedals that Riv does not sell. What are some of your >>>>>>>>>>> favorites, >>>>>>>>>>> and why? For what use? If you use the aforementioned MKS pedals, >>>>>>>>>>> what is >>>>>>>>>>> your opinion of them? Do you like the size/shape? I'm wondering if >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> length of the pedal is more important than the width. The Gamma, >>>>>>>>>>> Lambda, >>>>>>>>>>> and Allways, for instance, are all longer than the Vice, while >>>>>>>>>>> being >>>>>>>>>>> slimmer. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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