I just finished building an Appaloosa-my first Riv and my first build. I 
took my time and really enjoyed the project. I have only ridden once, below 
zero windchills and icey roads now, but found it very rewarding to ride a 
bike I put together and understand how it works. I find the beauty in the 
aesthetic and the experience. All bikes are cool, but as I get older I am 
drawn to function and simplicity. Instead of carrying a large camera 
system, I now carry a Fuji and a couple of lenses. Instead of owning six 
fly rods and carrying 50+ different fly patterns, I have two trout rods and 
carry a handful of proven flies, some tippet and a leader or two. For me, 
simplifying my equipment deepens my experience in all areas. I do like the 
ideals and aesthetics of the Rough Stuff Fellowship, but I prefer to 
actually ride my bike and not break things or come home bleeding! I hope to 
contribute something to this forum now that I am actually a Riv owner; I 
have learned a lot through this forum.

On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 8:24:10 AM UTC-6 philipr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> This is a great conversation and reminds me of a maxim in my industry; 
> "some people buy equipment so they can make music, others make music so 
> they can buy equipment." Neither are wrong, both achieve satisfaction from 
> their chosen path but the approaches are polar opposites.
>
> What does worry me is that bicycling is going the way of the HiFi industry 
> where "anoraks" who insist that you can't have good sound without $500 
> cables have destroyed the middle ground for equipment and denied many the 
> experience of quality home listening. You now have the high-end, high-$$ 
> market & box systems from Costco with almost nothing between them.
>
> If the bicycle industry continues to "innovate" to the point where the 
> technology and price point drives away the more casual rider they will find 
> themselves in the same position; selling expensive bikes to a stagnant 
> market with the rest of the riding population buying from the big box 
> stores.
>
> On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 12:47:53 AM UTC-6 divis...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> More specifically, "bloody bike anorak"; BBA for short.
>>
>> Peter "the backdoor invasion of CR nomenclature" Adler
>> Berkeley, CA/USA
>>
>> On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 10:37:20 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> The technical term is "anorak."
>>>
>>> Patrick Moore, who gets a kick out of old fashioned Brit slang.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 11:12 AM Ben Adrian <bunny...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ... nerds ...
>>>
>>>

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