The Roadini is a very nice looking bike, too.  I hope this does not sound 
superficial, but I enjoy the head badge, the decals, and the painted 
cutouts on the seat lug more than if it were just 2 pounds lighter!  Also, 
I rode a 'Redwood' (tall Romulus) frame back in the 2000's and really liked 
it, but the Roadini is a more advance frame design in general (long head 
tube, sloping top tube, wheel clearance, and more.).  I have an old Calfee 
carbon frame I got used.  It is very light.  But I hardly ride it.  Why? 
 Hard to say, but I suspect that it has a lot to do with how the Roadini 
feels 'planted' or secure (words fail me here), but on the human level, I 
just prefer the look of the Roadini-- it has character and a timeless 
beauty that makes the sum of all its parts more than just a 'fast bike', a 
'super light frame', or even a practical 'get the job done' machine.  And, 
of course, it is always comfortable!  This is key: the Roadini does not 
cause neck pain, back pain, hand tingling or stress from the worry of going 
down if I hit a pot hole.   I won't be selling mine.        

On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 12:48:36 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Well said, Karl. Add to that the probably (I've not ridden one) signature 
> Rivendell handling of the Roadini* and the pros may well outweigh the cons. 
> And of course, weighing the balance between pros and cons is largely a 
> matter of individual taste.
>
> Patrick Moore, ruthlessly botton-trimming his replies, in ABQ, NM.
>
> * I certainly loved this in the customs, and found it in the Ram and even 
> in the Sam, tho' the same had too much wheel flop for my taste.
>
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 1:31 PM Karl Wilcox <kwi...@weimar.edu> wrote:
>
>> It might be helpful when considering a Roadini to observe that frame 
>> stiffness or compliance are not the only things that matter.  I find my 
>> Roadini stiffer than I prefer, but the
>> Roadini offers other features that I just can't find in other production 
>> frames.  For instance, the roadini fits me perfectly and I can get my bars 
>> up higher without making the bicycle appear silly or handle funny (my bars 
>> are exactly 1 inch below my saddle height).  Also, I can ride 33c tires (I 
>> have the 2018 roadini), and the long wheelbase is wonderful.  The Roadini 
>> is also versatile: I ride it on trails and on pavement.  I can ride with 
>> fast club rides and I can do light touring, too.  I have a 1977 custom 
>> Mercian that is wonderfully compliant, but on fast descents it can be scary 
>> and it cannot carry any kind of load.  My point is that the Roadini has 
>> many virtues, but no individual frame can be any other frame. 
>>
>

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