Hi Joe, Greg, thanks for your thoughts.

The main thing is that I'm having trouble understanding whether this is too 
small, or just right for me (I'm 5'5, I would say short torso and reach, 
and regular legs). That's what I hope someone on this group can help me 
understand. I understand it's not an exact science, but in this case I 
don't even know if I'm in the right wheel house. 

Types of rides I like: 

- bikepacking
- mostly road with 20% gravel

I currently ride a modern gravel bike but that just got stolen.

If this is *possibly* the right size for me, I will probably set it up with 
flat bars and 26" by 1.25" Elk Pass tires. It'll be a long term project to 
get this set up as a 'forever bike', a bike that I'd spend time building, 
and hopefully ride for a long time. I am fine with the price of the frame, 
given the cause and rarity. 

But I don't know at all whether or not it's even possible. I went to see it 
yesterday and stood over it, but without anything attached to it, that felt 
hard to gauge.

With the current info above, what do you all think?  


On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 12:41:38 PM UTC-8 Greg J wrote:

> Hi Adrianna - what do you want to know from the group?  If it's whether 
> you should buy it or not, that's really for you to decide, but -- as 
> mentioned before -- (1) the price is on the high end (but it's for a good 
> cause and also, these don't come around often, especially in this size); 
> (2) it's a nice frame that probably rides very well.  Not the lightest 
> bike, and limited tire selection (there are not as many high-end road tires 
> for 26 x 1.5 as for 700c), but I'm sure it handles well in a neutral way. 
>  Plenty versatile for all types of road riding and some trails.
>
> I'm pretty sure you can get the year from the serial number (from the 
> Waterford site), if that matters.
>
> But really, what are you looking for?  What type of rides will you use 
> this for?  What do you currently ride?  How will you build it up?  And what 
> do you like about it?
>
> Greg
>
> On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 11:45:13 AM UTC-8 Adrianna T wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I went to see Joe B at the Marin Museum of Bicycling to see if I want the 
>> Riv Road Standard bike frame.
>>
>> Details were somewhat unclear and as this group pointed out, it's hard to 
>> tell size and fit when the bike is not built up.
>>
>> So further details are posted her (on my personal page):
>>
>> https://skinnylatte.notion.site/Riv-Bike-e56ddf417ee54e788e3a445eafc46f44
>>
>> Joe also called Grant and provided this update:
>>
>> " After talking with Grant, and trying a few more wheels, it appears the 
>> frameset is for 26x1.4" wheels (MTB, 559 bead seat size). So tires would be 
>> 35mm max, 32mm more like it. "Pre-1999 for sure," says Grant."
>>
>> My main question is: I previously thought this might be *just nice*, now 
>> I am not so sure.
>>
>> Anyone see anything interesting about the new information here? I still 
>> want it very badly of course, and that's maybe why I can't be objective 
>> about it ;/
>>
>

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