Well, I gotta say, this topic (the humble bearing) can be one heckuva 
rabbit hole!  John, this is likely why your Chris King's are probably still 
going strong - go here <https://chrisking.com/pages/technology>, scroll 
down to "Our Bearings" and watch CK's video.

CK manufacture their own sealed angular contact bearings.  Amazing since CK 
can then control each and every aspect of all of their components.  Makes 
complete sense.

It appears that WI has partnered with Enduro Bearings.

It would be an interesting exercise to convert from radial to angular 
contact bearings - yet another project!  I have to say, I'm hesitant to try 
since I'd likely have to buy or borrow more drifts and tools.

I recently serviced my rear hub for my Rambouillet (Shimano Ultegra 
FH-6500).  I think that hub was introduced around 2002-2003 or so.  I 
bought the Ram from a fellow RBW person on this forum and it was ridden 
well.  After disassembling the hub it was in very good condition.  I 
cleaned out the cup and cones and used Shimano's "Premium" grease and it 
buttoned up nicely.  Amazing longevity.   Those cup and cone angular 
contact bearings last a long time. 

Best regards, 

Jeff
Claremont, CA  






On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 5:03:46 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:

> I agree- a very interesting discussion. Regarding my hub, it spins 
> beautifully and so I'll live with the quirky radial bearing play. Out of 
> curiosity, the bearings are ABEC 6902. Does this mean if I wanted one day 
> to replace them with angular bearings I would go with 7902s? Seems logical, 
> but until yesterday I had no idea bearings came in other flavors. 
>
> On a side note, I have some 25-year-old Chris King hubs that run 
> beautifully with no play. Would these contain angular bearings or just 
> really good radial bearings like the Phils?
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
> On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 7:38:22 AM UTC+9 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, 27 January 2022 at 6:36:02 am UTC+11 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I remember in the very early years of Riv that Grant mentioned Bullseye 
>>> hubs do this and to basically ignore it. Until I've done a 
>>> *lot *more riding..ignore it I shall. 
>>>
>>
>> I have some Bullseye hubs that are now almost 40 years old, and they have 
>> exhibited this play since new, and still exhibit it to much the same 
>> degree. I replace the 6001 bearings in them every few years. There is much 
>> the same play in the Bullseye roller bearing bottom brackets, of which I 
>> still have a couple in use. If you grab the crankarms and waggle them, some 
>> small amount of play can be detected, and could be detected even when the 
>> BBs were brand new.
>>
>> Of the cartridge bearing hubs that I have, only the White Industries and 
>> Onyx hubs have adjusting collars that would allow for correct preload to be 
>> set if the deep groove radial bearings were replaced with angular contact 
>> bearings.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>

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