In my experience, don't fear the long top tubes on Rivendells. I was a bit apprehensive (at 5'9"+) about going from a 54-55 standard road bike to a 57 Bleriot and 58 Saluki. They fit great and I didn't have the bars all that high. Big bikes are comfy.
Ryan On May 5, 5:08 pm, Bill Connell <bconn...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think you need to pay attention to both seat and top tube when > shopping frames. There's no one right answer, it depends greatly on > how the bike will be ridden and the intended bars. One of the main > benefits of the typical Rivendell fit is the typically higher bars, > but you don't want/need them higher than the saddle, the next size > down is certainly a valid choice. > > > > On Wednesday, May 5, 2010, Aaron Thomas <aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I suppose one person's "impractical race standards" are another's > > comfort zone. I tried the high-bars approach and didn't care for it. I > > felt like I was driving a bus and that my center of gravity was too > > high. > > > You can disparage that as following "impractical race standards" all > > you want, but the fact of the matter is that lower bar height works > > better for me. But in coming to that discovery I've had to give up one > > of the long-top-tube neutralizing variables in the process. Hence my > > question: if someone prefers lower bars, should they size down with > > respect to what ordinarily be recommended? > > > On May 5, 3:38 pm, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > >> Roadeo excepted, isn't the general philosophy behind Riv design to > >> stay away from impractical race standards? > > >> On May 5, 5:32 pm, Aaron Thomas <aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > All of this is true, but it seems to depend upon high bars to help > >> > with the neutralizing. If someone prefers a low bars setup, one of the > >> > neutralizing elements in Riv's schema does not come into play. > > >> > So what should someone do in such a scenario, assuming they aren't > >> > willing to adopt a higher bar position? Should they purchase a smaller > >> > frame than would ordinarily be recommended for their given PBH? > > >> > Aaron > > >> > On May 5, 2:53 pm, Grant Petersen <gr...@rivbike.com> wrote: > > >> > > > It seems to me that because of the long top tubes most of Rivendells > >> > > > frames are not designed for drop bars. With the long top tubes you > >> > > > need bars that come back towards you to provide a comfortable reach. > > >> > > UnSo! Terribly, terrifically unso. > > >> > > The Top Tube Ruse in RR--40/ 41? talked all about that, but I realize > >> > > people > >> > > come and go and land late and may skip over or miss, but basically, > >> > > it's > >> > > like this. Forgive lack of detail in these explanations: > > >> > > Shallow seat tubes neutralize long top tubes. We have shallow seat > >> > > tubes. > > >> > > Higher bars super-'eutralize long top tubes. We're the Cosmos champs > >> > > in that > >> > > cat. > > >> > > As bars get higher, your arms become more horizontal, and that makes > >> > > them > >> > > longer (effectively, not literally). > > >> > > Tall quill stems always help, but with our bikes--as much as I likem & > >> > > we > >> > > gottem, they're less necessary than they are with a '73 Colnago, or '84 > >> > > Centurion Ironman, etc. > > >> > > I cannot image more drop-bar friendly bikes than ours. I wouldn't > >> > > design a > >> > > bike that wouldn't work fine with a drop. With appropriate-sized stems > >> > > for > >> > > the size. > > >> > > Granted, my personal Sam is a 60 with a 7stem, and that's borderline > >> > > funky, > >> > > but that's on a 62.5 top tube, and I'm a mere 5-9.9. > > >> > > G > >> > > -- > >> > > Grant > >> > > Rivendell Bicycle Workswww.rivbike.com > >> > > 925 933 7304 > > >> > > -- > >> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > >> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> > > For more options, visit this group > >> > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> > For more options, visit this group > >> > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hidequoted text > >> > - > > >> > - Show quoted text - > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubsFor more options, visit this group > >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Bill Connell > St. Paul, MN > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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