Great, Thank you Karl! Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 5, 2022, at 7:41 AM, Karl Wilcox <kwil...@weimar.edu> wrote: > > Mike, > I use a Lanolin based product called ‘Fluid Film’ here in the States. It is > formulated expressly to prevent metal corrosion. When riding on ice and snow > (and salt) I have also used it on my drivetrain, but that is an extreme > measure. I believe that Grant has also extolled the virtues of Lanolin in > years past for protecting metal from the elements. > Cheers, > Karl > > <image1.jpeg> > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 4, 2022, at 10:14 PM, Michael Williams <mkernanwilli...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Karl, What form/ product do you buy for the lanolin based spray. A quick >> search brings up sprays that are used to keep the undercarriage of cars from >> corroding. Something like that? -Mike >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jan 4, 2022, at 10:06 PM, Karl Wilcox <kwil...@weimar.edu> wrote: >>> >>> I use a Lanolin based spray (Lanolin is sheep's wool grease) in all tubes-- >>> it is highly water resistant: many years riding in English and Scottish >>> winter weather with no corrosion on a 40 year Mercian. >>> Cheers, >>> Karl >>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 8:29 PM Mackenzy Albright >>>> <mackenzy.albri...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I've used fluid film on all my bikes. I've ridden in salty northern >>>> Alberta winters (I'll soak down my chain and other exposed areas and it >>>> wipes of easy in spring). Standing water for several kilometers. And >>>> constant heavy rains in the Pacific Northwest and have had great results. >>>> It's inexpensive and easily available. I respray occasionally when I do a >>>> maintenance tear down, clean, and grease. I've also ridden 30+ year old >>>> touring bikes that and MTb's with no treatment and hardly any corrosion on >>>> the inside. Worst bikes I've worked on were found in alleys and damp >>>> garages. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 11:13:36 AM UTC-7 M Talley wrote: >>>>> Apologies, for the nerd-out dump: >>>>> A few years ago I was getting to the end of a can of Weigle's Frame >>>>> Saver and bought Fluid Film based on this video. There is compelling >>>>> testing laid out here. >>>>> "Real World Undercoating Test: Fluid Film, NH Oil, Krown and More..." >>>>> >>>>> When I went back to find that video I see the same youtuber has a new >>>>> product he likes - Blaster Surface Shield Undercoating. This sounds >>>>> similarly lanolin-based with an ability to penetrate nooks making it a >>>>> better auto undercoating. Perhaps no better than FF for bikes? >>>>> "I Finally Found The Best Undercoating On The Market... Blaster Surface >>>>> Shield" >>>>> >>>>> It's repeated around the internet - lanolin-based coatings out-perform >>>>> wax-based. >>>>> >>>>> On the topic of ED coating. I've been curious why this treatment isn't >>>>> more prevalent. An odd case: QBP and it's brands with steel models - >>>>> some, but not all models are coated. From hands-on (around 2016-19) >>>>> experience I've seen Surly and All City frames (Bridge Club and Space >>>>> Horse) with ED coatings and a Salsa without (Vaya). ED is applied to >>>>> Surly steel handlebars (Moloko, Corner, Sunrise). So is pretty durable - >>>>> my guess: more durable than powder coating but below plating (nickel, >>>>> chrome). >>>>> >>>>> Looking at the described application process it is understandable why ED >>>>> adds cost. Info from Handsome Cycles (Link to Wikipedia within their >>>>> statements goes deeper): >>>>> https://handsomecycles.com/blogs/culture-guide/what-does-ed-coating-mean-for-bicycles >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> P.S. >>>>> All of that and for perspective there is Grant's observations on >>>>> untreated steel: >>>>> "But if rust were the tube-killer the carb-al-ti folks would have you >>>>> believe, there wouldn't be hundreds of thousands of 30-year old and >>>>> routinely neglected steel-framed bicycle still roaming the planet." from >>>>> here >>>>>> On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 7:23:54 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote: >>>>>> Garth, >>>>>> >>>>>> I deleted the original post because I answered the question for myself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hugh >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 1:54:51 PM UTC-8 Garth wrote: >>>>>>> It's odd that the original post was removed shortly after it was >>>>>>> posted. I tried to reply but it was gone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll use Boeshield spray for my next frame. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FWIW, Progold has a "Steel Frame Protector" spray of their own. It's >>>>>>> shipable from a few online retailers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Frame Saver was bought by Problem Solvers, aka QBP. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.bicycleretailer.com/product-tech/2019/08/15/frame-saver-becomes-problem-solvers-product-qbp >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 3:17:16 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> For a long time the original stuff was from Peter Weigle, I thought. >>>>>>>> Perhaps it still is. Are Riv bikes not E.D. coated? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:46 PM, Hugh Smitham <hughs...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Apparently problem solver purchased frame saver, as far as I can tell >>>>>>>>> there are no online retailers selling an aerosol can of it, perhaps >>>>>>>>> it can't be shipped because it's an aerosol can under pressure? >>>>>>>>> Anyone know how I can get my hands on some? Maybe a retailer in the >>>>>>>>> Los Angeles area? 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