thanks for the recommendations and suggestions - managed to get a matching 
rear thumbie for the bike, and went ahead and ordered a set of paul levers 
because they'll likely be the last set of levers we'll ever need. been 
really digging old shimano mtb stuff lately but didn't want to hold out 
waiting for something in good condition. 

i think i might get an r14 rack eventually, i like the ones without the 
tombstone. erlen is out of the question, as is the bagman support as i 
think those are better for barrel shaped bags than for the riv offerings. 
heck, even a marks rack would do, but i already put one of those on my 
wife's bike. probably shouldn't steal it from her just yet.

the pec deck is an idea i've considered, but no, the slim sucker does not 
have any webbing  on the bottom which is a bummer, but it's small so 
probably would have been overkill. 

im gonna call riv tomrrow to ask about the kickstand. so far the rat tail 
filing out the hole to the left seems to make the most sense, and i get 
with enough torque there wouldn't be any reason for the kickstand to move 
back and forth along the elongated hole. we'll see if they cosign this idea 
or have a better one. i'm sure they've dealt w it before.

thanks everyone - better pics to come hopefully this weekend.



On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 2:45:01 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> > does anyone have any rack-less recs for sackville saddle bag thats an 
> inch too low and touching the rear wheel?
>
> I have small frames and low saddles. I've used both the Swift Industries 
> Catalyst (reinforced X-pac) and the Jacks Supply Co Little Slugger (Cordura 
> or X-pac) successfully. Both have a plastic insert which maintains the body 
> shape when empty. Not very big but can be overstuffed and has loops on the 
> lid to tie on stuff. Both also work well as handlebar bags with longer 
> Voile straps and foam spacers.
>
> > i was hoping to avoid racks on this back entirely just because my city 
> bike has front and rear racks, and generally all the fixings.
>
> Would you mind a saddle bag rack? The Carradice Bagman Sport works well 
> with larger saddle bags, like the Swift Industries Zeitgest, and it's not 
> as big a commitment as a dedicated rear rack. Someone mentioned the Ocean 
> Cycles Erlen rack - very elegant and blingy but designed for the Nitto S-83 
> so can be a roll of the dice with other seat posts.
>
> > the bag is the slim sucker.
>
> Is your rear flap too long? I bought one recently and the bottom cleared 
> by 3/4" even when I stuffed it but the too-long flap flopped over and 
> rubbed the rear tire. Will said that was ...  not right - actually a couple 
> of inches too long - and I returned the bag for a refund.
>
> --Ed C.
>
> On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 8:08:33 PM UTC-8 Brent B wrote:
>
>> Michael, 
>>
>> I also have a very small amount of kickstand rub on one of my bikes with 
>> a very slightly out of true rear wheel, and had a neat idea for temporarily 
>> fixing it the other day: 
>> [image: kickstand-tire-rub-hack.jpg] 
>> I swear, I will true that wheel eventually, and NOT just totally forget 
>> about it because it's not making that noise anymore!
>>
>> I've had some success using a "Pec Deck 
>> <https://ronsbikes.com/products/pec-deck-chest-support>" style support 
>> for a rear saddlebag on my Atlantis. Gotta say, the idea sketches me out 
>> as-intended for a front handlebar bag, but as a means to buy an extra 
>> couple of inches of clearance over the rear wheel it seems safe enough. 
>> Worst case scenario is the bag rubs your tire a bit. 
>>
>> I cobbled one together from Carradice Bagman support struts 
>> <https://carradice.co.uk/product/bagman-support-struts/> and a Nitto 
>> strut. In the attached I'm using a Road Runner Jumbo Jammer which is has a 
>> mount or strap every few inches all over itself. I can't tell if the Slim 
>> Sucker bag has any kind of mounting point around the rear/back of the bag 
>> that would work for this though.
>>
>> [image: rear pec.jpg]
>> [image: makeshift pec deck.jpg]
>> [image: bag sag.jpg]
>>
>> -Brent
>>
>>

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