Or, if you have a decent body scale, weight before and while holding the
bike.

I'll be interested in hearing Clem weights and corresponding builds.

I do think Riv framesets are heavier than they need to be, but OTOH, so
many people find Clems and such to ride "lighter" than their weight; this
includes a real roadie or ex-roadie, Patrick O'Grady, formerly of Velo News
and BRAIN, who owns a Clem and an Sam and has reviewed these and other Rivs
positively. (He also, apparently lives in ABQ, NM, as I just discovered.)

My 2003 58 c-c Riv Road custom built with very long steerer and head for
26" wheels weighed 7 lb with contemporary Ultegra hs, while my early '70s
Libertas frameset, 60X56 c-c, with *steel* Campy HS weighs 5 lb 14.5 oz.
The Libertas has somehow lasted some 40 or 50 years.

The 2003 built with 48X17 Dingle on Surly flip flop hub, Son, f and r
lights, custom f and r racks, VO fenders, bell, cages, and seat bag with
kit weighed about 26 lb, the same  as the replacement Matthews build up the
same but with 2 lb+ SA AM hub.

I think my Sam Hill with fenders and racks was about 30. For comparison,
the other Matthews "road bike for dirt" with 700C X 62 mm Big Ones and
42/28 X 13-25 10 sp drivetrain, 80 mm alum fenders, SP f+r lighting system,
no racks but Med Revelate Tangle frame bag (emptied of all except the
K-Lite switching gear and cig-pack-size capacitor), plus cages and bell and
steel/aluminum handlebar-attached accessory mount weighs 30.5 lb, thanks to
light wheels (tires 450 grams) and lightweight tubing.

The 1999 gofast fixie custom is 18 lb even with heavy (360 g) pedals and
heavy Phil hubs, but the proposed swappable wheel TC hub will add probably
a lb or more, the also proposed TF only about 1/2 lb.

On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 10:34 AM aeroperf <[email protected]> wrote:

> While we’re going "arghhhh!"...
> A number of threads have asked, and one of the questions could be answered
> just by hanging a bike on the scale at your LBS.
>
> I was hoping Leah would weigh Peppermint Platy before and after her build,
> but I guess that’s OBE.
> How about somebody go weigh their Clem, and somebody go weigh their
> Gus/Susie, and somebody go weigh their Platypus - and report back?
>
> Whether bike weight actually makes a difference or not, there seems to be
> a conspiracy about not reporting Rivendell bike weights.
> We’ve had people talk about getting them up a flight of stairs, or hanging
> them on a rack, but nobody actually puts out a number.
>
> I’ll start.  Here’s mine:
> 2015 Sam, size 55, as supplied by Rivendell:
> Bar end shifters, Suguino XD2 triple crank, FD-3030 front, Atlas 700c
> wheels, Conti SpeedRide tubed tires, Shimano RD-M591 rear, Shimano R550
> levers, Tektro R-559 brakes, cork grips.
> Add a Serfas RX-921V saddle, Blackspire pedals, Zefal fenders, and a bell.
> 29 pounds, 3 oz
>
> Add a Blackburn EX-1 rack and BCC 12.12 computer and my typical riding
> weight comes in a just a smidge under 30.5 pounds.
>
> A Homer, size 51, set up exactly the same way except Deore FC-M590 crank
> and FD-M610 derailleur came in at 29 pounds 14 oz.  Smaller bike, thinner
> tubing, lighter crank.
>
> It’s not a Susie or a Clem or a Platy, but it is a data point.  Next time
> at your LBS, take one minute and have them weigh your bike.
>

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Patrick Moore
Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum

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