I tried a Pendleton shirt but found it itchy and binding in riding
positions, and hard to control its insulating properties, compared to
button up or zip up knit wool sweaters lie the nice Wooly Warms Riv used to
sell. As always, mileage varies.

As for anoraks, if you mean the conventional no-placket design, I'd
consider looking for something with buttons or zip to allow heat control. I
will easily sweat even in temps well below freezing if even slightly
overdressed.

Someone very kindly gave me 2 old school Italian wool cycling jackets with
nylon panels; the very best design, IMO, since knit wool breathes and is
comfortable even fully zipped over a much wider range of temperatures than
other materials, while the panels keep the wind chill down.

But speaking of Varusteleka.com, I did buy a wonderful, very thick wool
sweater with high, full-zip placket mock-turtle neck design and long
sleeves with thumb secures for riding under a thinnish shell at very low
temps (and for other cold weather use, too).

I have an Endura riding jacket, zip-off sleeves, that I'll once again offer
for sale shortly. It's made from semi-insulating (ie, not just a shell) and
somewhat elastic fabric, and well cut, designed, and stitched, but just
awkward when the temps rise by 10 or 15* as they do often here during a
cold morning ride. The wool + nylon panel jackets are just more versatile.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 12:47 PM Karl Wilcox <[email protected]> wrote:

> I find that a Pendleton wool shirt is ideal for winter rides, as it has a
> 'hard' finish that resists wind without adding so much insulation that one
> sweats to death on climbs.  It is also a low bulk garment that can easily
> fit into a mussette or handlebar bag, etc.  I get my Pendleton wool shirts
> on Ebay (I get the older versions in the 'Tall' size; they are nice and
> long so that they do not ride up and expose the lower back; they also have
> a slim fit to cut down on flapping).  Of course, Rivendell's 'Woolywarm'
> lightweight sweaters and sweater vests are also
>  ideal, but the hard finish on the Pendelton's cuts wind and adds
> insulation for temps around freezing and somewhat above.
>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 11:25 AM Benjamin L. Kelley <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dave, I've been wondering the same.   I've had my eye on these finnish
>> blanket hoodies for a while now as a multipurpose outdoor shirt.
>> https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/jama-blanket-shirt/35226#koko
>>
>> These folks also seem popular and offer more colorways and
>> styles/thicknesses.
>> https://asbellwool.com
>>
>> KC winters are sort of all over the place.  I think a wool anorak type
>> thing could overlap a lot of different weather patterns we get, and worn
>> like a traditional anorak, loosely, you'd be able to layer up or down
>> underneath it and use it as a beefy shell they insulates on its own or as
>> part of a system depending what you're facing.
>>
>> Last year I went with a Wrangler insulated work shirt(the one with the
>> sherpa fleece lining on the torso and quilted poly in the arms) for
>> everything but precipitation.  Cheap and functional.  Though it did not do
>> well with wind, I sized it as a mid layer so I could throw a wind jacket or
>> my softshell wind/rain jacket over it.
>>
>> --ben in KC   (I cut into a local persimmon seed last month and the shape
>> was a spoon so we'll have a wet winter if you believe the lore.)
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 11:53 AM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Dave:
>>>
>>> I don’t have much experience with very cold climates, but even here in
>>> cold-ish Northern California it’s easy to over-dress. There’s a saying
>>> among runners that you “don’t dress for the first mile.” If you leave on a
>>> bike ride feeling warm and toasty, you’ll likely feel overheated and sweaty
>>> very soon.
>>>
>>> Maybe rather than a (I assume) heavily insulated anorak, you could
>>> invest in several lighter pieces that can be put on and taken off in
>>> layers. A wind shell on top to keep the cold wind out, and one or two
>>> layers of wool.
>>>
>>> Eric Norris
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 5, 2021, at 9:31 AM, Dave Grossman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm thinking of investing in a wool anorak for winter activities and
>>> just wondering if anyone uses one for riding in the winter or if they get a
>>> bit too warm?  They are a substantial investment but worth it in my
>>> opinion.
>>>
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