Well, I bought a lottery ticket for a Clem and now I wait. Not sure how I 
feel about this system but it does seem a more fair way to sell the limited 
amount of bikes. This may be the new normal for awhile until the cargo 
backlog clears up. I read somewhere that the cost per bike to ship by cargo 
ship has gone from $17 per bike to about $70 per bike in some cases. I 
don't know how accurate these figures are but I don't doubt the increase. 
Couple that with the increased demand and decreased supply coming out of 
factories and one can easily understand the price increases across the 
markets.

Anyway, I was texting Joe earlier today about my reservation about buying a 
step-through frame and he was saying he loves his custom with the low top 
tube. I looked at a few builds online including Grant's Clem L and they 
just look so nice. At 54 years old I will enjoy stepping through the frame 
instead of having to do a leg lift every time I ride. One other random 
thought...I wonder if the Platypus has lowered the demand for the Clem L?
Doug

On Thursday, October 7, 2021 at 3:24:52 PM UTC-4 Max S wrote:

> Aha... Thank you, John, for that note. Must have been a glitch. I just 
> clicked on that link and was able to purchase. 
> Winter is fast approaching here in MI, so we'll prob. have to pickle it 
> until late Spring. 
>
> - Max "mmmm.... pickles...." in A2
>
> On Thursday, October 7, 2021 at 2:50:59 PM UTC-4 John A. Bennett wrote:
>
>> >> Alas, 1.5 hrs between that email being sent and when I checked was 
>> apparently more time than it took for all 200 of the lottery tickets to 
>> sell out. Maybe >> later folks will start to auction off their "lottery 
>> tickets"?.. 
>>
>> Not to worry. The lottery tickets are NOT sold out, as of Thursday, 
>> October 7, at 11:49AM (PDST)
>>
>> Get 'em here: 
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/clem-smith-lotto-ticket-z?variant=40615872757871
>>
>> Thanks! 
>>
>> john(at)rivbike(dot)com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, October 7, 2021 at 9:40:12 AM UTC-7 Max S wrote:
>>
>>> *Johnny Alien wrote:*
>>>
>>>> I think the word "presale" is a bit misleading as to what is being 
>>>> suggested here.  The suggestion is that they should start a list like 
>>>> custom builders do. Lay down that $50 and you are added to the list.  When 
>>>> you are up they contact you and if you have changed your mind in the year 
>>>> that it has taken they can move on to the next name.
>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed. What Riv is currently devising seems convoluted... But the 
>>> approach seems to work for the company and, really, is not different from 
>>> what advertising has done in the past and continues to do. 
>>>
>>> I'm awash in bikes, but wanted to snag a Clem L in a warm color for my 
>>> spouse. Alas, 1.5 hrs between that email being sent and when I checked was 
>>> apparently more time than it took for all 200 of the lottery tickets to 
>>> sell out. Maybe later folks will start to auction off their "lottery 
>>> tickets"?.. 
>>>
>>> I am curious how well the supply chain is going to recover, and what 
>>> it'll do to the demand and prices for bikes. Not that I'm selling or buying 
>>> mine anytime soon, just curious. 
>>>
>>> - Max "emotionally overly attached to certain tangible objects on two 
>>> wheels" in A2
>>>
>>

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