Talking about a "best shoe" reminds me chain lube discussions !  What's 
common to all ?  That "what works" has no limits and is not bound to any 
particular form. Endless Creativity abounds. .   .  . and that's pretty 
darn awesome ! 
On Wednesday, August 25, 2021 at 5:18:14 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> This just in: The size 10 American $20 Target plimsolls (bought, again, 
> for clips and straps off road) are *very* big for 10s, and *very* wide. 
> They are much bigger than the size 11 Specialized "2FO" SPD shoes I bought 
> earlier in the summer. A 9.5 would have been better, and I daresay they run 
> 2 full sizes bigger than the Specializeds, but I can always install a 
> thicker insole.
>
> Patrick Moore, who spent $200 + on shoes and pedals to try flat, 
> no-retention pedaling and heartily disliked it.
>

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