*Shop Class as Soul Craft* is a great book. I believe that it was discussed on RBW or iBOB when it first came out. I had never heard of the newer one and appreciate the reference.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 1:00 PM Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > Good points. Moulton reminds me of Matthew Crawford's *Shop Class as Soul > Craft* where he argues that even the "base mechanical arts" (Crawford's > examples are electrician and motorcycle mechanic) incline the practitioner > to both moral and intellectual virtue (in the traditional sense; Crawford > is that rarest of birds, an Aristotelian who is not a Thomist) because they > force one regularly to submit to reality external to the ego. This would be > even more true for a creative craft, and both in contradiction to "digital" > and clerical trades, he says. > > He repeats this general theme -- we need close and regular involvement > with external reality to thrive -- with a slightly different slant in his > later *The World Beyond Your Head* > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 8:40 AM Tim Baldwin <tbaldwi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dig it. I end up on his blog occasionally. He does have some good been >> around the block a few times wisdom. I think Grant may have linked to >> Dave's blog and that was how I ended up there. >> I was reading Lila by Robert Pirsig last night and got to a section >> talking about celebrity. A zen master once told him, "If you get too famous >> you will go straight to hell." The idea being that once you become a >> celebrity you have two personalities diverging, the true self and the image >> others have of you. This is true of all people to some extent but gets >> magnified when your fame increases, thus making it more difficult to get in >> touch with your true self. I don't have much desire to be famous but I >> would like to be happy. These are good reminders that happiness is a choice >> we make each day, not something that is given or owed to us. >> >> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 10:57:55 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote: >> >>> Thanks for posting. Good read. >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 11:01:13 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: >>> >>>> I guess not too many on this list read a blog by a retired builder of >>>> racing frames, but Moulton has a fund of basic wisdom in his very old age. >>>> He's not a wise man, but he's a practical man who grew up in harder times, >>>> worked at a real craft, and has mellowed in old age. FWIW. >>>> >>>> http://davesbikeblog.squarespace.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Patrick Moore >>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>>> >>>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ee0c7fdb-c872-4260-8055-2c4ca3f152fdn%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ee0c7fdb-c872-4260-8055-2c4ca3f152fdn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgsX%2BJjmoH-P7vrDZzCLvBS5T9Mm%3DreB%3DYd5dXBuoeq1Mg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgsX%2BJjmoH-P7vrDZzCLvBS5T9Mm%3DreB%3DYd5dXBuoeq1Mg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAKpoxNje8YfzEg33jN8xyER96o%2BPzRRSjH0P-qwDUWPKWTMNFA%40mail.gmail.com.
