Some interesting ideas here! 

Mark says: "Clapton, Page Beck, or Mick Taylor. (It's obviously Peter 
Green)lol." Well, I can't think Clapton, Beck and Page without thinking 
about Supergroups. So maybe I am thinking too small here... What about a 
collaboration between Grant, Matt, and JP? Petersen, Whitehead, and 
Weigle???  Haha

On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 9:34:49 AM UTC-8 philipr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> OT on...
>
> English = from the country of England
> British = from the countries of England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Island
>
> Growing up in post war Britain was drab, dreary & dark. While the US was 
> enjoying the greatest economic boom in history & the sun shone every day in 
> Southern California the British were still under rationing, plagued with 
> unemployment, industrial unrest & surrounded by the toll (both physical and 
> emotional) extracted by a total war. In other words, it was cold, dark, 
> gloomy, there were 2 channels on the TV, when the miners went on strike the 
> power went out and there was generally f*** all to do. So if you picked up 
> a musical instrument you had both the time & the inclination (get me the 
> hell out of here) to get really good at it!
>
> Combine all that time with latent talent and a ready supply of "exotic" 
> music brought back across the pond by merchant seaman and you had a 
> primordial stew just ready to produce winged flight. Then a lot of begating 
> started. It was a moment in time unlikely to ever repeat itself 
> unfortunately.
>
> Now check out Rory Gallagher (who was Irish actually), I'll start you off 
> here - 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlEfyMoR49M&ab_channel=thanasisSkrepMetalo
>
> Back to our regularly scheduled programming...
>
> On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 11:15:43 AM UTC-6 Daman Mohan Kumar 
> wrote:
>
>> Firstly, apologies for the off-topic comment. Every last one of those 
>> guitarists Mark mentioned are English (or British, this is one of those 
>> things I absolutely cannot wrap my head around no matter how many times I 
>> read about it).
>>
>> No further comments, though - I just found it incredibly interesting how 
>> that bunch of stellar musicians came out of the same region.
>>
>> Daman
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 8:33:43 PM UTC-8 Mark Schneider wrote:
>>
>>> I deliberately didn't bother to watch it because it's a stupid click 
>>> bate title and a ridiculous premise. Like Ben stated they're both great 
>>> bikes, but quite different. My custom Terafrerrma is nothing like my Masi, 
>>> or my Homer or Atlantis. If I'm going on a long fastish ride but want my 
>>> camera in my bag in front of me I take the low trail custom. I use the old 
>>> Masi if I just want to ride hard and fast. But most the time I just chill 
>>> on one of the Rivendell's that are still fast, fun, and plush.
>>> I found the idea as ridiculous as people arguing who's better, Clapton, 
>>> Page Beck, or Mick Taylor. (It's obviously Peter Green)lol.
>>> I'm sure I'll watch the video eventually, Russ does a great job and he's 
>>> level headed and fair. 
>>>
>>> Mark 
>>> Half Moon Bay area
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 8:03:14 PM UTC-8 Ben Miller wrote:
>>>
>>>> The "Path Less Pedaled" YouTube channel just released a video with the 
>>>> provocative title "Rivendell vs Crust! Which is Better? 
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0hM8ZSBRl0>" 
>>>>
>>>> The actual video is a lot less provocative. Basically Russ comparing 
>>>> his Hillborne to his Bombora. Still interesting, but maybe less so than it 
>>>> could be? 
>>>>
>>>> I imagine Crust and Rivendell must get compared to each other a lot. I 
>>>> know that their the only two bike frames I currently own and ride, so I do 
>>>> it more or less constantly. I imagine that this is partly due to Matt & 
>>>> Bene purposefully designing the Romanceur frame with the Rivendell 
>>>> aesthetic in mind. I think Russ sort of touches on that, when comparing 
>>>> the 
>>>> Bombora to the All City and the Hillborne to the Richtey. He seems to be 
>>>> saying, the Ritchey/All City aesthetic lacked something the Riv/Crust 
>>>> bikes 
>>>> had. 
>>>>
>>>> Anyways, I think of Crust as threadless, disc, and low trail compared 
>>>> to Rivendell with rim brakes, quill stems, and high trail. Like most 
>>>> thing's not hard and fast (see: Canti Lightning Bolt). What's your hot 
>>>> take 
>>>> on the two?
>>>>
>>>> I think both bike companies are really doing some amazing and important 
>>>> stuff for the bike industry. What I think would be really interesting 
>>>> collaboration between Grant and Matt. Maybe something along the lines of 
>>>> the Soma San Marcos, but both providing inputs. That'd be really cool!
>>>>
>>>

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