I also wanted to point out the VO Voyager rim, exactly between the Atlas and Cliffhanger width, polished silver, rim brake and tubeless compatible. Excellent and will go on my "one day" wheelset when I'm ready for a dyno build with the best stuff (e.g., maybe some hub beyond Shimano's "great but not fancy looking" options).
For anyone looking for *significantly cheaper but similar* width, tubeless ready rims, see that Alex Adventurer 2 https://alexrims.com/products/adventurer2/ - sometimes called the Adventure. Ticks all the boxes EXCEPT it's not all silver (only the rim brake surface is silver). But a screaming deal at $36 / rim. I had some built by universalcycles (DT double butted spokes, LX hubs) so I could try a tubeless setup on my Hillborne - it was excellent until I put too much air in the tire and popped it of the rim (entirely my fault, didn't read the separate and lower tubeless PSI max limit on the rene herse website for my snoqualmie pass tires). Now with tubes I'm still very happy with them. Nice for 35mm-52mm wide tires. The old rule of thumb was "tire size should be about 2-3 times the rim interior width." Sheldon's thoughts on rim vs. tire width - https://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html#width Many have said, and it seems supported by actual use reports, that the Panceti rims are nice with wider tires than the above chart indicates. Clearly 90's mountain bikes had narrower rimes relative to tire width (easily 3-4 times wider than the rim width) with success. In fact, there seems to be a consensus that there's a "wider" (forgive me) range than the Sheldon chart suggests. Abe On Friday, 5 February 2021 at 05:57:17 UTC-8 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote: > Hugh, > No personal or first hand usage experience to offer and I've not yet had a > chance to fully read all replies so this may have already been mentioned > but it might be worth checking out Velo Orange's Voyager rim - it made it's > way onto my shortlist for a potential wheel build based on similar > wants/needs and the Voyager fits somewhere in between the Cliffhanger and > the narrower rims like the Dyad and Atlas, comes in silver finish, and > tubeless compatible. I forget the exact tire range VO stated for the > Voyager compared to the Cliffhanger but I at least recall the narrow end > was down to 38mm tires and covered a range of widths I'm considering. > > Best, > Brian Cole > Lawrence NJ > > On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 8:32:18 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote: > >> So as not to offend any long-term members on this list I did first do a >> search and did not find an answer to my question? I believe back in 2018 >> William Henderson in PDX after an accident had a wheel set built with the >> same hubs I'm considering, if he could chime in that would be excellent. >> >> On with the question, >> >> Does anybody have experience with the Velo Orange Grand Cru 135mm QR >> Shimano hub? Specifically, has it held up over time? How does it feel? Does >> it spin freely? How does it sound? Meaning is it silent or does it have a >> loud ratcheting noise? What were your initial impressions of the build >> quality and then later impressions. >> >> It's my aesthetic, I just see my new to me Atlantis built with silver >> shiny hubs otherwise I'd build my new wheels with a DT Swiss 350 rear hub >> and be done. I'm considering a White Industries hub but that's close to >> $200 more over the VO hub. Just debating whether the extra $$ is worth it? >> >> I'm going with the Velocity Cliffhangers, wish they came in silver :( >> Planning on running schwabe g ones in 2.25" evolutions for cush and speed. >> If you have a recommendation on rims that will allow for tubeless, decent >> tire profile in silver please lmk. FYI not going with the HED Belgian rims >> at $165 nope! >> >> I'm also looking for the Riv stem shifters currently out of stock on the >> Riv Hq site. If anyone has a pair that they're willing to part with let me >> know? >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Hugh in Sunny SoCal Los Angeles to be exact. >> >> Since I'm honorable and might as well ask another question. I plan on >> running aluminum albatross bars any recommendations for grips. My >> preference is a easily removed grip like the Ergon which I have. Is there >> an esi like grip that's removes simply? >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3bc85e09-9fbc-4374-be22-ec9d36bd8168n%40googlegroups.com.
