I would not say your MBs are similar to any Riv currently in production, 
especially in the stack height. If you want comfort and utility and great 
handling and the bars up enough to save your neck, most any model they make 
is great for that. Bridgestone mountain bikes were good for the racing they 
were built for then, but in my opinion they don't rise to what you can get 
from even the cheapest Rivs today, the Clem and Roadini. I can't talk 
anybody into a bike they've never ridden, but I'm comfortable saying anyone 
with enough interest in the company to be on this list probably should have 
at least one Rivendell at some point in their lives. 


On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 11:03:25 PM UTC-8 Sam Perez wrote:

> Comfort and utility, with whatever reasonable sport quality's of not being 
> a clinker like my stumpy. Or are my bikes similar to a riv? That's what I 
> wonder since I can't test one out.
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021, 9:48 PM Jason Fuller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> That EBISU is so sweet, and now I know who you are from IG haha. I guess 
>> the big question is what do you want the Rivendell to do and what qualities 
>> from these bikes do you want it to have / not have?  Grant doesn't make a 
>> bad bike but he makes a handful that aren't probably what you're after! 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 8:03 PM Sam Perez <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> This is really helpful, I'm interested about more experiences to help 
>>> guide me in the right direction.
>>>
>>> Here are some of the bikes mentioned
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021, 5:33 PM Chris L <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had an 83-84 Takara Highlander, which was basically a Stumpjumper 
>>>> clone and it rode nothing like a Riv.  The Takara was floppy at slow 
>>>> speeds 
>>>> and became a juggernaut at medium and faster speeds.  The front-end either 
>>>> felt like you couldn't hold it steady or it felt like you could barely 
>>>> budge it from straight.  
>>>>
>>>> The Hunqapillar front-end is very neutral, not twitchy and not overly 
>>>> stable.  In fact, the front end just instinctively goes where I want it 
>>>> too, which I think is a big part of the Riv ride magic.   If I see a 
>>>> particular path I want to take or something I want to avoid, just thinking 
>>>> about it seems to make it happen, with no real conscious effort to make 
>>>> the 
>>>> steering corrections.  
>>>>
>>>> I test rode a 26" LHT and found it to be extremely twitchy and 
>>>> unpleasant.  But, it had drop bars, which I'm not used too, and the skinny 
>>>> tires Surly spec'd for it.  Put fat tires and a mtb handlebar on the 26" 
>>>> LHT, and I think it would ride similar to a Rivendell.  In fact, the front 
>>>> end geometry of the 26" LHT and the original 56 cm Atlantis, yield pretty 
>>>> much the same trail and wheel flop numbers.  
>>>> On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 9:38:50 AM UTC-6 Sam Perez wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm ready to get a riv bike but haven't ridden one yet. Bikes I've 
>>>>> owned and emulated rive bikes with are the following.
>>>>>
>>>>> MB-1  26"
>>>>> MB-0. 26"
>>>>> Surly LTH.  26"
>>>>> EBISU All purpose 650b
>>>>> Salsa ala carte    26"
>>>>> 84 stump jumper 26"
>>>>> 80s univega.         26"
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have experience with same bikes? Do the rivs handle like 80s mt 
>>>>> conversations?  after years of riding I'm beginning to get some neck pain 
>>>>> from drop bars. So really an upright sporty rando with day loads up 
>>>>> diablo. 
>>>>> Haven't decided what model yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks 
>>>>> Sam
>>>>>
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