I got the wife the Willow 3 since she was too short for the Clem. (More 
like a Betty/Cheviot than an AHH.) I think the Brooklyns are a great value 
proposition, and I point folks in their direction if the price of a new Riv 
is a bit daunting or they can't wait for a used Riv to pop up. The tig 
welds are clean and structurally the ride has been fine, plus having an all 
cro-moly frame is a noticeable difference versus hi-ten frames typical of 
bikes in this price range. The ride "rhymes" with a Riv: still fun and 
comfy but there's a snappiness and sharpness that's missing for me. The 36h 
wheelset has been solid for the city riding we do, though I did have to 
true it up once shortly after we got it. The finish on the frame isn't as 
nice as a Riv and of course no lugs or headtube reinforcement rings to be 
seen. Fit and finish of components are meh: they're functional but I don't 
expect them to take a lot of abuse.

--Ed C.
On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 9:51:59 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I don't know much about Linus but I've never seen an ugly one. Whomever is 
> behind that brand is *into *it.
>
>
> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 5:08:49 PM UTC-8 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> I actually looked at Brooklyn bicycles back in November of 2019 when I 
>> was looking to buy my first bike since middle school...I was 38 at the 
>> time. I REALLY wanted a Rivendell because of a buddy in college who sold me 
>> on the company, but wasn't going to spend that kind of money until I knew I 
>> loved riding. I really liked the look of the Bedfords. I e-mailed with 
>> Brooklyn and they recommended the Roebling for my height, and I didn't like 
>> it as much aesthetically. I had no idea Grant had anything to do with this 
>> company until last month! I ended up with a Linus Altore 7, which I honesty 
>> really liked and borderline loved it after swapping out a few things and 
>> making it a budget-build Riv-a-like. 
>>
>> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 4:33:49 PM UTC-6 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>
>>> A Handsome Devil is basically a  tig-welded SAM.   It looks similar to 
>>> the bike you linked, but it's double-butted 4130 and has canti brakes.  
>>> Room for 45s without fenders, 38 with fenders.  I have one.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 4:23:42 PM UTC-5 Nick in Sac wrote:
>>>
>>>> Awhile back, I worked for a bike shop that had these as rentals. They 
>>>> were a nice ride but equipped with pretty low-end components and made with 
>>>> a hi-tensile steel frame. At the time, I wasn't aware of Rivendell or 
>>>> Grant 
>>>> Petersen's design philosophy. I didn't pay much attention to them.
>>>>
>>>> However, looking at Homers but lacking the budget to build one, my mind 
>>>> went back to these:
>>>> https://www.brooklynbicycleco.com/collections/bedford-collection
>>>>
>>>> It also appears that Grant designed their bikes in some capacity: 
>>>> https://www.brooklynbicycleco.com/blogs/journal/five-things-that-matter-on-bike-frame-geometry-with-grant-petersen
>>>>
>>>> Am I cuckoo for thinking that this would be a good option for someone 
>>>> on a really tight budget or someone who has a partner or spouse who rides 
>>>> occasionally? I just emailed them about tire clearance and am waiting to 
>>>> hear back. From what I remember, they came stock with a 32 and had room to 
>>>> spare.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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