Having just made the transition from my 2007 Salsa Casseroll Triple
featuring stock / full Shimano STI 105 shifting to my Atlantis with
bar end shifters / Campy FD / Deore XT RD / Sugino XD2 triple I can
say I actually like the friction shifting better but find no
appreciable difference in ramps pin etc.

On Apr 20, 7:33 am, Richard <rsv...@netzero.net> wrote:
> Here's a Sugino crank to consider.
>
> http://www.velo-orange.com/suoldlotr.html
>
> I believe the pins and ramps are not a big deal if the front
> derailleur is friction, not STI or similar.  The following is from
> Peter White's web site, and might also be useful.
>
> http://peterwhitecycles.com/chainrings.asp
>
> On Apr 20, 5:06 am, happyriding <happyrid...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > What's an alternative to the Sugino XD2 that has ramps and pins (all
> > silver finish of course).
>
> > How big a difference is there with no ramps and pins?
>
> > Thanks.
>
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