And for me, a side pull CHG kills it. Those long reach sidepulls are weak and flexy. No thanks.
Eric V brake fan On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 10:10 PM Jason Fuller <jtf.ful...@gmail.com> wrote: > From an engineering perspective, what I appreciate about side-pull brakes > is that all the clamping forces are contained within the brake itself, ie > it does not exert any bending force on the fork/frame like a canti or > v-brake does. Even the braking force goes to the crown of the fork rather > than the blades, so the fork blades can focus on other things. That said, > the tire clearance limitation is a problem if you like anything bigger than > a 42c. > > Reminds me - James told me via email that the Charlie H Gallop is going to > be side-pull rather than v-brake like the prototypes > > > > On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 7:01 PM ted <ted.ke...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> New newer newest ... >> Standard oversised ... >> normal short long ... >> Traditional ... >> >> All relative terms whose meanings morph and evolve and the use of which >> may or may not make sense to one depending on how long you've been paying >> attention. >> From where I sit the waterford AHH and atlantis were the last of the more >> "traditional" Riv designs, the break being 6 deg top tubes and more limited >> sizing. >> With the longer wheelbase MIT models its another leap from "traditional". >> Maybe it's because I grew up before mountain bikes, but to my eye >> side/center pull brakes are traditional while cantilevers (not to mention V >> brakes) are new fangled. Discs new fangleder yet. >> But I think RBW would say they aren't about tradition but about practical >> bikes and what works. >> >> There were side pull Roms and canti-Roms, there were side pull Salukis >> and canti Salukis, there've been canti Sams and side pull Sams, the SOs >> were going to be side pull but the builder used the wrong rear brake bridge >> so they ended up canti. Prior to their recent embrace of V brakes (and the >> slow march towards ever bigger and bigger tires) RBW seemed quite agnostic >> wrt the whole canti vs side/center pull thing, and they went back and forth >> quite a bit. >> >> I'm continually amazed at how strongly many folks feel about various >> types of brakes. In my (admittedly somewhat limited) experience they all >> can work fine. That said, I find side/center pull calipers the easiest and >> least fidly to set up. If they (side/center pull) yield sufficient >> clearance I don't see a strong argument against them. >> I'm glad you got the bike you want, I'm also glad my wife's Sam has dual >> pivot brakes. >> >> >> On Saturday, September 5, 2020 at 5:20:59 PM UTC-7, Nathan F wrote: >>> >>> This change baffled me too, when I was buying my 2018 (in 2019, the last >>> one Rivelo had) it was a huge deal for me. Glad to see another run of them, >>> in my eyes the Hillborne is the last holdout of the more "traditional" Riv >>> designs that ended a few years ago. >>> >>> On Saturday, 5 September 2020 16:12:03 UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: >>>> >>>> The original Sams had cantilever brakes; why did Rivendell switch to >>>> calipers? It seems to me that the Sam is the sort of bike -- allroad or >>>> country bike -- that obviously needs cantilevers (or V brakes; heck, for >>>> that matter discs, if Rivendell used discs; just not calipers) for tire and >>>> fender clearance. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 3:37 PM Joel <jrst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The new ones are canti’s I think? 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