Heya Joe!  I think you're pretty bang on that I'm having a hard time being 
fully happy with the Clem due to fit. The thing is, the 45cm has a 575mm 
ETT which is actually pretty reasonable for my height based on setup (not 
full swept bars, but the ~45 degree bar I'm running on it), but otherwise 
it's quite small.  And yes, the overall compactness of the 45 Clem H paired 
with the tubing renders it a very stiff bike indeed.  But since Riv has 
decided to only put out three sizes which could fit a football field 
between each, I went with the 45 on clearance because I can't even stand 
over a 52 without being on my tiptoes. 

I'll certainly enjoy the Clem over winter for now but will put my extra 
beans in a jar for the eventual Gallup pre-sale! Funny enough, the geo of 
the engineering drawing of the Gallup from an old Blahg is totally my size, 
and looks good from what's shown in the image. 

On Saturday, 15 August 2020 at 22:49:46 UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Jason, I think your problem - other than you just like light, 
> sporty-feelimg bikes like that XO - is your Clem is more than a bit too 
> small. I'm 5'-6" and had a Clem L 45cm which was a BIT small for me, and 
> only really worked because I needed the bars close and way upright 
> (arthritis). At 5'-8" I don't see any way you're riding that bike without 
> feeling cramped and awkward, not to mention the tighter triangle on that 
> size H model is going to be WAY stiff. In Clems I'm sure you need a 52 but 
> to heck with that, get a Gallup! 

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