The Clem certainly is the most versatile and I'd be more inclined to load 
up this one for camping trips vs the Redwood. I have 2.1" Thunderburts 
right now which are a pretty sweet spot, but lots of options.

On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 2:57:22 PM UTC-5, Mark Roland wrote:
>
> Those are some excellent examples there, Steve. Thanks for doing the work!
>
> I'm trying to eliminate bikes too. I kind of am, but they seem to be 
> getting replaced with Rivendells. All of the Hillibike variety, which I 
> feel is hard to come by anywhere else. I like the utility and the fun of 
> the Clems. 
>
> With the extra dough from selling the Redwood, you could get a nice passle 
> o' supple rubber:
>  
> 44 Snoqualmie (file tread)
> 55 Antelope (file tread)
> 29 x 2.2" Fleecer Ridge (knobbie)
>
> Or similar from other brands. Get a second wheelset for the Fleecers.
>
> With a slight saddle adjustment, you can get a smidge more seat angle 
> (really such a slight difference between 71.5 and 72 anyway.) Easily 
> handles the 2.1" with fenders, drops. Really a vintage mtb drop bar 
> conversion but way better, with longer stays and more stack. I've never 
> ridden a Redwood, but I have ridden bikes with the same geometry and wheel 
> size. In terms of versatility and fun, super hard to beat a Clem. When the 
> kids are older and you're having a midlife crisis, you can order up a 
> Roadeo.
>
>
> On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 3:13:40 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>> On 8/7/20 3:03 PM, Jason Fuller wrote: 
>> > While I should take my own advice when I say this, I think the 
>> > difference between 47c and 2.1" is almost all in one's head 
>>
>>
>> The difference between 47 mm ( "47c" is fingernails screeching on a 
>> blackboard) and 2.1" is a whopping 5.3mm.   5.3mm is more than the 
>> difference between a 23mm tire and a 28mm tire; more than the difference 
>> between a 28mm tire and a 32mm tire; more than the difference between a 
>> 38mm tire and a 42mm tire.  Those are non-trivial differences, and are 
>> instantly noticeable when riding.   "Almost all in one's head?"  I doubt 
>> it... 
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Steve Palincsar 
>> Alexandria, Virginia 
>> USA 
>>
>>

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