Erik, I'm guessing your Roadini could fill the road +niche? But if you intend to have it as your minimal, light as you can make it rider then Homer (650b?) slotted in between Roadini/Sam would be very doable.
Yesterday saw my first encounter with a Roadini. As we approached each other, on a path, I recognized it as a grilver Roadini and hollered at the rider and asked him to stop so I could take a look. You show me your Roadini and I'll show you my Homer:-) He was kind enough to stop and chat for a few minutes (while observing proper distance). I was impressed with the frame; much nicer in the "flesh" than in pictures. And the components he used were well considered. All in all a handsome bike. If not for Covid I would have asked him to swap bikes for a quick test ride. As a bonus, while we were stopped, a double top tube orange Hillborne rode by. Randomly seeing two Rivs in the wild in the span of a few minutes was a first for me. Cool that you are using the dt shifter bosses - for shifters and not cable stops. Hope you enjoy your Roadini and thanks for posting the pic. Best, Rich in ATL On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 2:38 PM Erik Wright <erik.s.wri...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've very curious to see the geo of the upcoming run of Sams. To your > point, Homer and Sam are both MIT and I'm curious if geo will be the > differentiating factor (Sam keeping the "short" chainstays) or if they'll > be like MIT Atlantis / Joe A where the differences are negligible. Honestly > I'm just wondering if Grant was worn down by all the bemoaning over long > chainstays and chose to keep the Sams as-is (or as-was). I think I'd be > surprised to see a 2020 Sam without lengthened chainstays. > > Here's a photo of my Roadini as it sits in the office this morning. I > swapped in the Dia Compe downtubers this morning before my ride to work and > am still experimenting with stem length, hence the nude bars. > > Erik, Philly > > On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 1:33:14 PM UTC-4 Fullylugged wrote: > >> Homer was conceived as a MIT less expensive alternative to Homer/Saluki. >> Capability wise, they are about the same. They do fire roads and light >> to medium tours well. They are capable on roads but not pure road bikes. >> Now both are MIT. Not sure why both still appear. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 27, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Jason Fuller <jtf.f...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks Rich, I do recall your post, I was just hoping for additional >> detail from the two or three (including yourself) who've made similar >> comments. Basically I am trying to understand how crazy it would be to own >> both (swap my lighter roadie parts to the Homer, and rebuild the Sam to >> more of a touring setup), or, conversely, how the Homer would stand up >> against "Road+" type bikes. >> >> >> >> I weighed my Sam, 27.5 lbs as it sits (while the Clem is 34 lbs with all >> bags removed.. heh) >> >> On Sunday, 26 July 2020 at 15:56:16 UTC-7 RichS wrote: >> >>> Jason, >>> >>> I posted this on July 14 related to a question about the Roadini. >>> >>> . . .MIT Homer - Lightest of the three. Now this is only a guess based >>> on past observations from others on the list - the Homer and the Roadini >>> frames weigh about the same. No doubt about it, the Homer rides lighter and >>> snappier than my Sam and Atlantis. Note: for comparison my Homer and Sam >>> have identical builds and geometry. >>> >>> MIT Sam - Handles a good bit like the Homer but its stoutness makes it >>> more akin to the Atlantis. In my experience what sets it apart from the >>> Atlantis are the 650b wheels and the angles. >>> >>> Update! Homer weight 27lbs. Sam weight 30lbs. Both bikes with metal >>> fenders and smallish handlebar bags. Hope this is helpful. >>> >>> Best, >>> Rich in ATL >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, July 25, 2020 at 1:33:48 PM UTC-4, Jason Fuller wrote: >>>> >>>> Add me to the list of people who are very curious about the Homer / Sam >>>> comparison. I have always thought of them as riding pretty similar, but >>>> never ridden an MIT Homer. I use my Hillborne as my road bike that I often >>>> ride with friends on modern performance road bikes. I know it's overbuilt >>>> for the purpose but I do like the comfort and versatility. Keeping up is >>>> sometime tough though, but I'm probably more to blame than the bike. >>>> >>>> On Friday, 1 February 2019 at 11:29:13 UTC-8 Adam Leibow wrote: >>>> >>>>> hi all, i want to create a thread where you just post a picture of >>>>> your rivendell(s) whenever you feel like it. hope this is OK w/ the mods. >>>>> i >>>>> love lookin at pics of em all day. i will start with my sam hillborne. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [image: IMG_3920.jpeg] >>>>> >>>> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/vUScDWCjWaA/unsubscribe >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c70071a9-4820-408e-8f23-f18f1c8473a6n%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c70071a9-4820-408e-8f23-f18f1c8473a6n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/vUScDWCjWaA/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9c780e94-56f0-4fc6-ad2f-27188dd1f8d8n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9c780e94-56f0-4fc6-ad2f-27188dd1f8d8n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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