Boiled wool with sandals will be my first attempt, I picked up some 2-ply 
socks and crocs. That just might do it for me until the temperatures start 
to drop below 50. Below that and I should probably just avoid creek 
crossings. 

Cheers! 
Andrew 

On Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 6:49:55 AM UTC-5 Deacon Patrick wrote:

> Andrew,
>
> It took me a long time to find and dial in what works for me in those 
> conditions, which fall in what I consider the most challenging temp range 
> (wet and cold). Get it wrong, and if you stop (intentionally or for a flat) 
> while still in the elements, hypothermia can set in fast. Now that I have 
> it dialed in, it's incredibly satisfying to hang out on an autumn rainy day 
> in an aspen glen I rode to and be warm and toasty the whole time vs "can't 
> stop, gotta stay warm!" Grin.
>
> Options to try and learn:
>
> - Add a warmer hat. The 2-ply boiled wool is perfect for those conditions.
> - Make sure your shoes/boots are upsized for thicker socks. Diminished 
> circulation from constriction is not fun. Generally one size up will cover 
> it.
> - Boiled wool with sandals. I tested this and it works well for me down to 
> about 25˚F. That's with the 3+ply over the knee socks. Just let 'um get wet 
> and ride.
> - quality thin, supple leather, upsized to accommodate the sock, such as 
> the Ra II mentioned earlier.
> - A duck boot/shoe, like from LL Bean. Unlined, so you can change socks 
> when they take a while to dry.
> - A gator to just under your knee to keep the splash out. I use a double 
> ventile gator and it's fantastic.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 11:24:06 PM UTC-6, Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>> I'll look into some water shoes. With boiled wool socks, even walking 
>> through water, my feet will stay warm albeit wet. 
>> On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 11:35:30 PM UTC-5 masmojo wrote:
>>
>>> That tricky. because the temperature range is still quite cool. Just 
>>> above freezing the still freezing, if it's wet and it's windy or you are 
>>> moving through the air, due to evaporative cooling. Up to about 45 to 50 
>>> degrees it would still be imperative to keep your feet dry! On up to at 
>>> least 65 I'd prefer to stay dry. To that end I am not sure what to say? 
>>> Probably some sort of shoe cover?
>>> I have a pair of water shoes that I wear when it's not quite sandle 
>>> weather.
>>
>>

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