I’ve ridden Brooks forever, I had decided to try narrower than my B68 as Oi 
rubs my inner thigh and is annoying. So I started reading on my old trusty 
B17.  Wow, so many models and opinions, now some discontinued.  Then I 
stumbled onto a few (many) comments and threads on Berthoud saddles. 
Looking at their page I see the Mente is closest in size to the B17, the 
rest are narrower.  But they seem to not be available unless from an eBay 
sellers who sell at a very high price.  I ride upright, not 90 degrees but 
closer than not.  I did read some comments on the durability of the leather 
which may have been caused by putting Proofide  on it.  Just wondering if 
any members who ride upright have used the saddle and how they like it.   
Not sure if this helps but my sitbones seem to ne a out 90mm apart, 
+20=110mm.  

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