I've used Pitlocks.  They do work, but can be defeated by a skilled
person.  However, they won't work on some bikes.  Notably newer Surly
LHTs.

Do use them on my Sam Hillborne when it's set up for commuting.   Even
then, will throw a cable lock through the front wheel.

For your saddle/seatpost, might want to try a seat leash. Just a cable
loop that goes down to the main lock.  It won't defeat effort, but
having to do two actions to steal a saddle will slow down the non
determined.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Apr 11, 4:52�pm, Jorge <jcarp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Joel, I agree, the Zefal is great for stopping opportunistic thieves.
> I read something interesting yesterday, "Locks keep honest people
> honest." �Those more determined and with a tool are more difficult to
> stop. �I think I'll switch to Pitlock for what it's worth, for wheels,
> light, saddle and seat post. �By the way, why didn't your Zefal unlock
> upon turning your bike upside down?
>
> Thanks Zach, I had actually read about the Zefal/magnet issue here but
> I didn't see any independent confirmation. �I read one post where
> someone used a very strong magnet but couldn't get the pin to move.
> Good to know that it's possible to defeat that way also.
>
> On Apr 10, 8:39�pm, Z I <rockscissorpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > It was reported in this forum that the Zefals could be defeated with a
> > strong magnet.
>
> > I later confirmed this with mine. If you turn the Zefals to lock and
> > unlock and listen carefully, you'll hear a click. Stick a magnet on
> > that clicking point when they are locked, and the magnet will pull the
> > internal pin to the unlock position, and you can flip the quick
> > release without turning the bike over. Handy if you're working on the
> > bike... but kinda defeats the purpose.
>
> > I'm still using them though. I figure the average swipe and run thief
> > won't know to carry a strong magnet around in their pocket. Others,
> > will get my stuff anyway, with a lever as happened here. I'm sorry to
> > hear you lost your Brooks saddle and seat post. And got a dent on your
> > top tube! That sucks.
>
> > � - Zach- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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